Has Bugel lost it?

[#56fanatic]

Buges is still one of the best O-line coaches in the game. he has taken a confidence stricken, technique lacking o line and brought back the confidence we use to see back in the day. He is a motivator, those guys will run through fire for him. Plus the improvement of Dockery is a tribute to Buges. As far as backups, I think Molinaro is the only one on the team that he has coached. Most of the backups are new because the ones that were here when he got here stunk.

[djdunick]

I agree with another one of the posts that Bugel still is a great O-line coach but maybe his influence with Gibbs and upper management isn't very great. You saw how the offensive production plummeted last year when Randy Thomas went out. The Skins set a record for lowest yards in a playoff win. They should've learned their lesson but chose only to go after position players in free agency which surprised me greatly. Dockery is Ok but he's not a pro-bowler.

The O-line backups looked pathetic on Sunday against the Bengals 2nd string and this is an area that they should've put a priority on in the offseason especially with an older quarterback who is more prone to injury. Maybe go after 1 position player and concentrate on getting at least one solid backup on the O-line.

[Defensewins]

NO, Bugel has not lost it.

The problem is for ten years Snydratto drafted terribly after the second round. They would do well with 1st and second round picks, but NOTHING after that. You can not develop quality depth at any position when your later round picks suck and get cut year after year.

In Bugels first term Bethard/Casserly found OL gems everywhere:

1) In Bugels first year Bethard/Casserly drafted M. May and R. Grimm (1st & 3rd round), then signed as undrafted F.A. rookies Joe Jacoby and Jeff Bosic. 4/5 of our line came in one offseason.

Raleigh McKenzie (11th round) and Ed Simmons (6th round) were great backups and ended up becoming great starters.
Call these lower picks lucky or smart.
We need to maxmize our draft picks for cheap depth.

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Back in the day Gibbs stashed QB's and other positions on IR. but I do not recall Gibbs ever stashing an offensive lineman of any significance on IR. They went out and found great players.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

1) In Bugels first year Bethard/Casserly drafted M. May and R. Grimm (1st & 3rd round), then signed as undrafted F.A. rookies Joe Jacoby and Jeff Bosic. 4/5 of our line came in one offseason.

Raleigh McKenzie (11th round) and Ed Simmons (6th round) were great backups and ended up becoming great starters.
Call these lower picks lucky or smart.
We need to maxmize our draft picks for cheap depth.

Excellent point. And don't forget Mark Schlereth -- another late round gem.

Sometimes I wonder whether that was really great scouting and a demonstration of Beathard's keen eye for spotting talent, or was it just the luck of the draw? Just think of the one-in-a-million shot the Patriots had by taking one of the best quarterbacks in the league in the 6th round!

I guess it's a combination of both. The stars were certainly aligned for the Redskins throughout the 80's. But Beathard was one of best at his job.

[SmootSmack]

By the way, have you seen Schlereth's daughter? She's no Ramona but still cute

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[offiss]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Excellent point. And don't forget Mark Schlereth -- another late round gem.

Sometimes I wonder whether that was really great scouting and a demonstration of Beathard's keen eye for spotting talent, or was it just the luck of the draw? Just think of the one-in-a-million shot the Patriots had by taking one of the best quarterbacks in the league in the 6th round!

I guess it's a combination of both. The stars were certainly aligned for the Redskins throughout the 80's. But Beathard was one of best at his job.

Beathard made those type of picks everywhere he went, he was one of the all time great talent evaluaters, Gibbs now that he has total control on personel is finding out that drafting late is much more than just making a selection, you here him constantly say how he believes we will really find some big surprises from these late round picks, of coarse that used to happen under Beathard but it hasen't happened yet for him. Espy is the first player under Gibbs to really have a chance to be that kind of player.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by offiss

Beathard made those type of picks everywhere he went, he was one of the all time great talent evaluaters, Gibbs now that he has total control on personel is finding out that drafting late is much more than just making a selection, you here him constantly say how he believes we will really find some big surprises from these late round picks, of coarse that used to happen under Beathard but it hasen't happened yet for him. Espy is the first player under Gibbs to really have a chance to be that kind of player.

RB Jessie Lumsden looks good so far. He could develop into a good player.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

RB Jessie Lumsden looks good so far. He could develop into a good player.

Agreed, I don't believe he's an everydown back, but used properly he could be very valuable, I actually think we didn't do to bad this year in the later rounds and free agency, but that does remain to be seen.