Why I feel there is reason for concern:

[DrFaust]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

I don't think anyone here is saying that preseason football is meaningless.

You're right. I don't get that feeling. I just thought it was an interesting quote.

[firstdown]

Just for a good example remember how bad Big Ben played last year in preseason and all the int's. he threw. Pits looke terrible last year in preseason and alot of people where saying that Ben was now feeling the effects and speed of the NFL. We all know what the out come of that was. Look at the other teams that have not won a preseason game colts, tenn., buf., pits., kc., and us most all made the playoffs.I think certain teams and coaches approach preseason differently. Yes I have some concerns but until we see them on Sept 11th its just to hard to tell what kind of team we have.

[PSUSkinsFan21]

Just to clarify, I could care less if the Redskins as a franchise never win another preseason game for the rest of their existence. I put no stock in preseason records because in 3 of the 4 games starters don't even play for over half of the game. My concern comes from what I've seen in terms of execution, and comparing how much rustier the Skins look right now than the rest of the NFC East. I guess it's more the competition that worries me because they look like they are all a step ahead of us right now in being ready for the regular season.

[Daseal]

Exactly PSU. My fear doesn't come from lack of wins. It comes from the poor execution we've had before. A more accurate stat would be how did the Redskins starting teams play in those preseason games?

The wins in the preseason are meaningless, the play isn't.

I completely agree with PSU!

[DrFaust]

Originally Posted by Daseal

The wins in the preseason are meaningless...

I agree with you, unless we're talking about winning the Superbowl. Historically, there is a correllation between winning preseason records and winning Superbowls.

[Daseal]

Well I guess Gibbs and company have no idea what they're doing then. That's basically what you're saying.

Well I guess gibbs and company are infallible and know everything in a league full of question marks. That's basically what you're saying.

[cpayne5]

Since I know how much you love boolean logic, this is just for you, Daseal!

GibbsandCO.knowledge > Daseal.knowledge && GibbsandCO.KnowEverything != true

I think it sums it up nicely.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Daseal

Well I guess gibbs and company are infallible and know everything in a league full of question marks. That's basically what you're saying.

Not infallible, but when Gibbs starts camp late, I think he knows what he's doing.

When the coaches don't show anything in the preseason, I think they know what they're doing.

Generally speaking, Gibbs and company know a thing or two about running a NFL team, a hell of a lot more than we do in fact, wouldn't you agree?

From an outsider's point of view, we as fans really don't know jack shit when it comes to what's going on behind the scenes.

[dblanch66]

How many of you were beating your chests and proclaiming "destination: Super Bowl" after the Spurrier beat down of San Fransisco a few years back in the preseason?? Be honest. How much did that game "mean"? We LOOKED great. Tell me about that superbowl season, there sparky.
It's preseason. end of friggin' story. Talk to me week 5.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by dblanch66

How many of you were beating your chests and proclaiming "destination: Super Bowl" after the Spurrier beat down of San Fransisco a few years back in the preseason?? Be honest. How much did that game "mean"? We LOOKED great. Tell me about that superbowl season, there sparky.
It's preseason. end of friggin' story. Talk to me week 5.

Not me!

[derrickskins]

Excellent clarification. The wins don't mean SQUAT in preseason. The records don't mean SQUAT in preseason. How you first unit plays the two series against the opponents first unit is what it's all about and our first unit offense (and last week defense) has me very concerned. There is no good execution of nay play. Aren't vanilla plays easier to execute?

[derrickskins]

Excellent clarification. The wins don't mean SQUAT in preseason. The records don't mean SQUAT in preseason. How you first unit plays the two series against the opponents first unit is what it's all about and our first unit offense (and last week defense) has me very concerned. There is no good execution of nay play. Aren't vanilla plays easier to execute?

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Alright guys, I'm not that concerned yet. I'm not very concerned at all. Does anyone know what our preseason record is the years we won the super bowl. I don't think we ever finished better than 1-3. The offense is going to be spectacular this year. Remember we have yet to see motion, yet to see CP, Moss, Lolyd, Cooley, and Antwan on the field at the same time for more than one play, and also remember that we don't want to reveal anything about our new offense. Just think how hard it is going to be for Minnesota's defense and Dallas's defense to gameplan for our offense. I think we are giving ourselves an advantage when the season starts. Hail to the REDSKINS!!!

[PSUSkinsFan21]

I don't doubt the coaches know a lot more about football than the rest of us, but I seriously doubt the coaches are telling the first team to go out there and look as substandard as possible tonight.

Vince Lombardi once said:
"Practice doesn't make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect."

[MTK]

Originally Posted by PSUSkinsFan21

I don't doubt the coaches know a lot more about football than the rest of us, but I seriously doubt the coaches are telling the first team to go out there and look as substandard as possible tonight.

Of course not. I won't deny the overall effort needs to improve. But I'll guarantee that the coaches are looking at these performances from an entirely different angle than we are.

We're so focused on what the team does and at this point that really isn't important. The coaches on the other hand are looking at evaluating individual performances.

This info from Saunders sums it up perfectly

Sure, he would like to see more production from the starting offense during the preseason, but more important is their performance beginning with the Sept. 11 opener.

"The thing we try to keep in perspective is that everybody -- players, coaches, fans -- wants to win, but the most important part of the preseason games is that it's another practice to develop consistency and technique," Saunders said before practice yesterday at Redskin Park. "A lot of guys improved from the week before, which was encouraging."

The Redskins' first-team offense has played 26 snaps in two games and has yet to score. Its snaps have been limited to prevent injuries, and the game plan has been as plain as possible.

"Most of what we do from a preparation and play-calling standpoint is designed for us to get an evaluation of players doing specific things," Saunders said. "We devised some plays for Mike Sellers so we could see him lead block and see him run the ball, and we did the same for Antwaan Randle El to put him on the perimeter. We were pleased with some of the individual phases of what we're trying to accomplish."

The starters will play more against New England on Saturday night.

"There are things we can fix and things we're looking forward to getting better at the next couple weeks," Saunders said.