Why I feel there is reason for concern:

[DrFaust]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

Yes, I know. Gibbs won 3 of them.

What was Gibbs' preseason record for the three years he won the Superbowl?

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by DrFaust

What was Gibbs' preseason record for the three years he won the Superbowl?

16-21 The nine seasons he went to the playoffs.
0-4 for the 82 Super Bowl season.
1-3 for the 91 Super Bowl season.
3-1 (1988) & 3-2 (2004) the two losing seasons he had.

I couldn't find stats for the 83 or 87 Super Bowl years.

[DrFaust]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

16-21 The nine seasons he went to the playoffs.
0-4 for the 82 Super Bowl season.
1-3 for the 91 Super Bowl season.
3-1 (1988) & 3-2 (2004) the two losing seasons he had.

I couldn't find stats for the 83 or 87 Super Bowl years.

Thanks for the stats.

It would be nice to have those stats for 83 and 87. Without them, it is hard to say that Gibbs' preseason record doesn't matter. But if you just want to go to the playoffs, then we have nothing to worry about. If you want to win the Superbowl, then there might be reason for concern.

[derrickskins]

My concern is that Gibbs started camp late because 98% of the playes particpated in all offseason OTA's. Some players were at Redskins Park every day. You play as you practice and preseason games are basically practices. There is a very legitime reason for concern, and if you aren't concerned now, you don't know football. As badly as this team is playing now, anyone who dismisses this as preseason vanilla football will be the same ones reading the Post Tuesday morning going, "How did they lose so badly to Minnesota?" You can't just flip a switch, or game plan crisp playing. I agree with the observation that every other NFC East team's first team looks dominant. Each team has gone right down the field and scored. I will point out one very, very positive thing, not too many penalites.

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by derrickskins

There is a very legitime reason for concern, and if you aren't concerned now, you don't know football.

That is an ignorant statement.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by derrickskins

My concern is that Gibbs started camp late because 98% of the playes particpated in all offseason OTA's. Some players were at Redskins Park every day. You play as you practice and preseason games are basically practices. There is a very legitime reason for concern, and if you aren't concerned now, you don't know football. As badly as this team is playing now, anyone who dismisses this as preseason vanilla football will be the same ones reading the Post Tuesday morning going, "How did they lose so badly to Minnesota?" You can't just flip a switch, or game plan crisp playing. I agree with the observation that every other NFC East team's first team looks dominant. Each team has gone right down the field and scored. I will point out one very, very positive thing, not too many penalites.

Well I guess Gibbs and company have no idea what they're doing then. That's basically what you're saying.

We started camp late last year, and we didn't look all that great in the preseason either.

11 wins later how much did that matter?