How Long For Brunell?

[RedskinPete]

Its a going to be a long year........

[Gibbs'IllegitChild]

sorry bout the double thread...

[NY_Skinsfan]

i am not happy that we didn't see sellers or cooley tonight, but i have to keep the faith that saunders playbook takes more than one offseason to get used to. i just hope and pray that we improve week to week. if that happens we'll do fine. yeah, this loss really sucks but it's no reason to jump ship and start hatin'

[Gibbs'IllegitChild]

im not starting to hate brunell, u cant honestly say it was a great pick up when we got him

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Gibbs'IllegitChild

im not starting to hate brunell, u cant honestly say it was a great pick up when we got him

This argument is really stale.

It's year 3 with Brunell, get over it.

He helped get us to the playoffs last year and he's our best shot this year.

[Twilbert07]

I would have liked to see Brunell half as pumped up in the fourth quarter as Brad Johnson. Johnson wanted the game more than Brunell, and the Vikings pulled it out.

[irish]

MB will not take this team to a Super Bowl Championship. They may get to the playoffs but not all the way. That said he's the man. For whatever reason Gibbs likes him so that's the way its gonna be.

[budw38]

It is possible that Loyd & Co. were not getting open ? I have been saying it all off season , if we can't , or are not willing to run the ball 30 times a game we are going to struggle . We don't have Brady or Manning and unless we pull off that trade , we better become and ground and pound team !

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by budw38

It is possible that Loyd & Co. were not getting open ? I have been saying it all off season , if we can't , or are not willing to run the ball 30 times a game we are going to struggle . We don't have Brady or Manning and unless we pull off that trade , we better become and ground and pound team !

Yeah because Brady and Manning are the only QBs in the game that throw the ball well. Com'on Brunell is fully capable of a 3800-4000 yard season giving a little more confidence in his WRs and some decent protection. We don't have 3 of the fastest and most agile WRs in the league to be a ground and pound team. That's just ridiculous. I am glad you have said it "all off season" but lots of people say things and lots of them are not right.

[budw38]

My point is that only a few Qb,s are capable of winning games without a great running game . We need to run in order to set up play action . And I would point to our struggles in third and 4 Plus yds is not very good . I agree that he needs more time , and that will come with a strong running game . Very few teams can win a Championship throwing first . You may be correct saying that Brunell can pass for 4,000 yds , but we will not win if we throw it that much , He will get hit too many times and none of our Wr's are going to hold up if they are getiing hit that often , we do not have 210 lb Wr's. I don't want 3 yds and a cloud of dust , I just believe we HAVE to run in order to win , and I think we can .

[FRPLG]

I am in no way on the Brunell sucks bandwagon but if I see him scramble three steps and throw the ball away without a defender within 6 yards of him again I might start getting on. At least twice last night he chucked the ball four or five steps too early. You gotta give your WRs time to break free. Especially on third down. He seemed a little to content to throw it away last night.

[#56fanatic]

Dont start with this Brunell has to go crap. the guy was pressured a ton, especially when they went 3 and 4 wide. He did the smart thing, moving out of the pocket to buy a couple of seconds and did the only thing he could, throw it away. Unfortunately, our defense was not as good as it has been the last couple of years. and our special teams suck. Frost has got to go. 30 something avg for an NFL punter, that is a joke. and kicking off is a joke too. teams catching the ball on the 15 or 20 and starting on the 35 to 40. we automatically lost field position after scoring the go ahead TD.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

Dont start with this Brunell has to go crap. the guy was pressured a ton, especially when they went 3 and 4 wide. He did the smart thing, moving out of the pocket to buy a couple of seconds and did the only thing he could, throw it away. Unfortunately, our defense was not as good as it has been the last couple of years. and our special teams suck. Frost has got to go. 30 something avg for an NFL punter, that is a joke. and kicking off is a joke too. teams catching the ball on the 15 or 20 and starting on the 35 to 40. we automatically lost field position after scoring the go ahead TD.

Frost averaged 43 for the night.

Not sure where you're getting 30. Maybe that was his net, but that's gotta fall on the poor coverage, not him. Outside of his first punt of the night he was fine.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Frost averaged 43 for the night.

Not sure where you're getting 30. Maybe that was his net, but that's gotta fall on the poor coverage, not him. Outside of his first punt of the night he was fine.

Our special teams play stinks. coverage wise, frost can not punt consistently. He had one good punt of like 50 yards which helped his average. he cant kick off, he cant get the ball deep on a consistant basis. we lose field position that way. we score a TD, then on the next kickoff they catch it on the 20 or 25 - they CATCH it on the 20 or 25. Hall is done. thats not even worth discussing. the coaching staff has to take some of the blame for not bringing in some people during the offseason to compete with these two chumps.

[Twilbert07]

Let's hope Mark Brunell was paying close attention to how his older counterpart played last night. Brad Johnson made things happen when the pocket collapsed.