How Long For Brunell?

[cowboykiller89]

Originally Posted by LadyT

No, he alone didn't lose the game, but he rarely wins games either. Face it, his glory days are long gone. He's a QB who seems capable of only throwing dink passes, he hears footsteps that aren't there, and he immediately gets rid of the ball if his primary receiver is covered. All this adds up to an offense that will struggle to score TDs as long as he is behind center.

He's the main reason why we've had to rely so heavily on the Defense to have any decent chance at winning games. He's the main reason why this offense rarely scores more than 15 to 17 points each game.

We have a slew of talented receivers, but all that talent don't mean a thing if you have a QB who can't seem to complete a pass beyond 10 yards. Yeah, once in a while he does manage to complete one downfield, but that's the definite exception, not the rule. So, what you saw from him Monday night is what you're going to get and it ain't pretty.

Everyone's angry at Hall for missing the 48 yard field goal. But, if it weren't for Hall's other 3 field goals, the game wouldn't have even been close!!!!!

A starting offense that's only managed to score 1 lousy TD in 4 preseason and 1 regular season games? Unbelievable.

As far as I am concerned, Mark Brunell won the most important and the most memorable game of all, last year in Dallas to break the painful losing streak we had with the Cowgirls! Not only that, he lead the way in their second meeting at FedEx Field, a critical game which was important to both teams. Needless to say, you know the outcome. Give him some more respect! I think Joe Gibbs and Al Saunders know a little more than you do when it comes to deciding on who should be the starter!

[LadyT]

Originally Posted by cowboykiller89

As far as I am concerned, Mark Brunell won the most important and the most memorable game of all, last year in Dallas to break the painful losing streak we had with the Cowgirls! Not only that, he lead the way in their second meeting at FedEx Field, a critical game which was important to both teams. Needless to say, you know the outcome. Give him some more respect! I think Joe Gibbs and Al Saunders know a little more than you do when it comes to deciding on who should be the starter!

All I know is what I see and what I see is that the weakest link on the offense is QB and has been for some time. It's a sad state of affairs when all you can credit the QB with is two games in a 16-game season. I'll repeat - he's rarely if ever the reason we win games and, for a QB, that's pathetic. I don't want a QB who mostly "doesn't lose games for us". QBs should be game breakers and control the flow of the game for their team. Brunell might do that 2 or 3 games a year, at best.

Problem is - there's no one else on the bench who's ready to take us all the way right now. Campbell may become that QB, but he's untested. I've seen all I want to see of what Brunell has to offer and it is game after game where we score 9, 10, 12, maybe 16 or 17 points. Again, pathetic, given the talent that surrounds him.

[RiggoRules]

I cannot believe I am here defending #8.

Originally Posted by LadyT

All I know is what I see and what I see is that the weakest link on the offense is QB and has been for some time. It's a sad state of affairs when all you can credit the QB with is two games in a 16-game season. I'll repeat - he's rarely if ever the reason we win games and, for a QB, that's pathetic. I don't want a QB who mostly "doesn't lose games for us". QBs should be game breakers and control the flow of the game for their team. Brunell might do that 2 or 3 games a year, at best.

May I suggest:

Eye Surgery Education Council

Perhaps you would be happier with this team and their four Super Bowl trophies:

The Official Website of the Indianapolis Colts

The Steelers, Patriots, Bucs and Ravens all have recent SB rings without "game breakers" at QB.

Perhaps you have forgotten what it has been like to have our QB losing game after game with stupid mistakes. I'm thrilled to see #8 throw that ball out of bounds instead of:

-Sack
-Penalty
-INT
-Fumble

The passing game struggles last year cannot be hung on MB. He had one quality WR. Of course the passing game is going to struggle. Against MN, Betts kept putting us in 2nd and 3rd and long. The most important (and most overlooked) QB stat is TD/INT ratio. Last year, MB was 2/1. That is outstanding. It was a big reason why we were able to get into the playoffs even though we were not getting any major juice from the passing game.

I feel like the Kevin Bacon character in Animal House yelling "Don't Panic!" in the middle of the riot.

If we had Bledsoe, Collins, Plummer, Kitna, Frye, Losman, Brooks, Carr, Huard or Favre (yes, I said it -- he is one of the worst in the league right now) at QB, then I could understand the reaction. In fact, I would be in a state of panic as well. But we don't.

I'd also like to point out that there are 10 NFL teams with really bad QBs starting for them this week. By comparison (and I can't believe I'm saying this), every Redskin fan should get down on their knees and thank god for #8.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by RiggoRules

If we had Bledsoe, Collins, Plummer, Kitna, Frye, Losman, Brooks, Carr, Huard or Favre (yes, I said it -- he is one of the worst in the league right now) at QB, then I could understand the reaction. In fact, I would be in a state of panic as well. But we don't.

I'd also like to point out that there are 10 NFL teams with really bad QBs starting for them this week. By comparison (and I can't believe I'm saying this), every Redskin fan should get down on their knees and thank god for #8.

First of all, Losman and Frye have next to no game experience. Favre, Brooks, Carr, Kitna and Collins are all on really BAD teams, and Huard is only playing because Trent Green is out. Bledsoe and Plummer are the only fair comparisons, and the funny thing is, there was a segment on ESPN today, about whether or not Plummer and Bledsoe should be benched. If Brunell continues to put up the kind of numbers he did on Monday, he'll be on that list in a few weeks.

And I sure as hell will not get on my knees for a middle tier, happy feet, scared quarterback, that makes a couple of great plays every three seasons.

[LadyT]

Originally Posted by RiggoRules

I cannot believe I am here defending #8.



May I suggest:

Eye Surgery Education Council

Perhaps you would be happier with this team and their four Super Bowl trophies:

The Official Website of the Indianapolis Colts

The Steelers, Patriots, Bucs and Ravens all have recent SB rings without "game breakers" at QB.

Perhaps you have forgotten what it has been like to have our QB losing game after game with stupid mistakes. I'm thrilled to see #8 throw that ball out of bounds instead of:

-Sack
-Penalty
-INT
-Fumble

The passing game struggles last year cannot be hung on MB. He had one quality WR. Of course the passing game is going to struggle. Against MN, Betts kept putting us in 2nd and 3rd and long. The most important (and most overlooked) QB stat is TD/INT ratio. Last year, MB was 2/1. That is outstanding. It was a big reason why we were able to get into the playoffs even though we were not getting any major juice from the passing game.

I feel like the Kevin Bacon character in Animal House yelling "Don't Panic!" in the middle of the riot.

If we had Bledsoe, Collins, Plummer, Kitna, Frye, Losman, Brooks, Carr, Huard or Favre (yes, I said it -- he is one of the worst in the league right now) at QB, then I could understand the reaction. In fact, I would be in a state of panic as well. But we don't.

I'd also like to point out that there are 10 NFL teams with really bad QBs starting for them this week. By comparison (and I can't believe I'm saying this), every Redskin fan should get down on their knees and thank god for #8.

We'll just have to agree to disagree about Brunell's capabilities, I guess. I'm not in panic mode, but I am very frustrated by Brunell's play and have been for some time.

But enough about my opinion. You'd be very interested to hear what Sonny J. has to say about Brunell, I would assume, as would all Redskins fans. After all, if he doesn't know the QB position, then who does? A relative of mine (who knows Sonny well) actually discussed Brunell's merits with ole Sonny recently. In deference to Sonny, I won't repeat what he said. Suffice it to say his indictment of Brunell was far worse than mine.

[cowboykiller89]

Originally Posted by LadyT

All I know is what I see and what I see is that the weakest link on the offense is QB and has been for some time. It's a sad state of affairs when all you can credit the QB with is two games in a 16-game season. I'll repeat - he's rarely if ever the reason we win games and, for a QB, that's pathetic. I don't want a QB who mostly "doesn't lose games for us". QBs should be game breakers and control the flow of the game for their team. Brunell might do that 2 or 3 games a year, at best.

Problem is - there's no one else on the bench who's ready to take us all the way right now. Campbell may become that QB, but he's untested. I've seen all I want to see of what Brunell has to offer and it is game after game where we score 9, 10, 12, maybe 16 or 17 points. Again, pathetic, given the talent that surrounds him.

Oh okay, I forgot, it was not Mark Brunell who lead the team to a 10-6 WINNING season, and not to mention the playoffs, including a win over the Bucs last year right? And all of this after such a long playoff drought which included a losing streak against the Cowboys! So are you also telling me that Mark Brunell was to blame for last week's loss? Did he not get the ball to Moss in the end zone? Was it not a perfect pass? It's not Mark's fault that Moss dropped it; that would have been the game and this discussion would not exist if Moss had held on to it!! It's not always about the quarterback, what the heck has Indianapolis done? Do they not have one of the best quarterbacks in the league with a ton of talent surrounding him as well? What have they accomplished? ZERO!!! Same goes for McNabb and the Eagles, Michael Vick and the Falcons!! You just need to learn to be patient, it's not going to happen overnight! Things will definitley get better as they get the new offensive strategy down. Look at it this way, we've already scored almost twice as many more points this season than at this same point last year; and mind you it came in a losing effort!