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Old 09-16-2006, 01:04 PM   #1
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Re: Sacrifice the Season

This season, without a doubt will be the make or break season for Brunell. We know JG is not going to start anyone other tran Brunell as long as he can walk, so as long as he feels we can get to the playoffs (and beyond) with Brunell then this will be his last opportunity. However I think that while no one should be thinking about jumping ship at this point, many still want to see more consistent play from the QB position. I have always been a supporter of Brunell, he did have a good year last year, but that was last year, and all the teams in our division have gotten better. There are no "easy" games on our schedule. We don't look to Campbell just yet, as long as we still have a chance, and one game into the season should not change that. Brunell must play better however, and starting tomorrow night. In our run for the playoffs last year "five in a row or we don't go" it was the running of Clinton Portis, and not the passing of Mark Brunell that got us on that roll, and in the end when we needed plays from the QB position they were absent.

It' plain and simple guys, Mark Brunell must play better for this team to reach it's ultimate goal.
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Old 09-16-2006, 10:50 AM   #2
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Re: Sacrifice the Season

Anyone blaming the loss to the Vikings on Brunell needs to get their head examined. He wasn't Peyton Manning, but the entire offense bears the responsibility for not getting it done in the redzone, and the defense deserves a LOT of blame for letting the Vikings have their way on third down.
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Old 09-16-2006, 11:05 AM   #3
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Re: Sacrifice the Season

Im not defending or bashing Brunell..... but, I think eventually this offense will need to be able to score alot of points on a regular basis and i'm not sure he can do that. I think we need a playmaker at that position with the competition in this division. That is why I dont think MB will be our qb for long. Its not that he will play so bad that he loses the starting job he just wont be able make enough plays when it matters. we play some really tough teams in the near future in Dallas, Jacksonville, Giants, Colts, with a few scrub teams mixed in there. We will need to ba able to score alot of points in these games to be successful. JC might be the spark that puts takes this O to the next level.

But of course.......MB does deserve a shot....and he needs to come up big this week against Dallas. If he has another week like last week (where he didn't lose the game but he didnt do anything to win it either) we are in trouble. The qb's in this offense rutinely put up 300 yds passing days, Brunell put up less than 200.....AGAIN!

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Old 09-16-2006, 01:21 PM   #4
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Im not defending or bashing Brunell..... but, I think eventually this offense will need to be able to score alot of points on a regular basis and i'm not sure he can do that.
Why not? We have great depth at WR this year, plus a strong running game (as soon as Portis is 100% healthy.) It doesn't have to be all up to Brunell to score alot of points.
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Old 09-16-2006, 11:35 AM   #5
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If Jason Campbell is indeed our future why not just start playing him now? The longer we avoid starting him the longer his development will take. I think not winning is not an option for Snyder even if it would pay huge dividends down the line. Would you guys be ok seeing the Redskins have a losing season if it meant that our "quarterback of the future" was learning the game?
We are 0-1 not 0-10. I give up.
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Old 09-16-2006, 12:49 PM   #6
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Re: Sacrifice the Season

here we are one game into the season and people think we should sacrifice the season!? i think your coocoo for coconuts. brunell didn't lose the game. he didn't play sepectacular, but he also didn't throw 5 ints. ntil he consistantly throws ints. or something, hes our guy
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Old 09-16-2006, 01:28 PM   #7
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I just want to win, period. I want to stop looking for ways to fix us. We have a great team, great players and great coaches. We just need to WIN!!
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Old 09-16-2006, 04:12 PM   #8
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I cant believe all of this. 1 game and the sky is falling. Brunnell is our best option at quarterback right now. He had a great year last year. The only way campbell starts is by injury. I cant see tossing the season for campbells development. At least not in week 2. Now with that being said should we be i dont know 2-8 at some point maybe but i really doubt thats going to happen.
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Old 09-16-2006, 05:24 PM   #9
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Absolutely right that Brunell is the problem and does nothing to help the team win.

He only got one little first down by running the ball. And of course he got lucky that he got just beyond the first down stripe. He should have been able to score for us by quarterback keepers. I mean, I can't imagine any other reason why can't they get in the end zone.

And he's not a great passer. I mean compare:
Brunell had 17 completions on 28 attempts
Bledsoe had 19 completions on 33 attempts.
Of course 3 were to the wrong team.

And, of course, the reason that Portis is out is because Brunell threw an interception in preseason.

So let's get rid of Brunell. If Campbell doesn't work out, maybe we can find a gem in the draft like Heath Shuler or Charley Batch. (Maybe we can even get Bledsoe if the Cowboy fans get tired of him.)
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Old 09-16-2006, 06:09 PM   #10
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I think a common misconception is that this is some knee-jerk reaction to the first game. Mark Brunell didn't play poorly in the first game, but he also didn't play well. Personally, I thought Campbell should have been prepared and started this season. A new offense lots of new personel, it's the perfect time to make the switch. I can't buy Mark Brunell is a good quarterback. He isn't consistant, he kills drives, he doesn't seem to make many reads in a game. "Moss is covered, Cooley is covered, Portis is covered, he throws it away. A lot of the time, that's okay, but when you see him throw it away when he still has seconds left to make a play it's a bit discerning. He just seems to rush.

Plus -- it's time to see what Campbell has. This isn't the 80's, you can't just have someone like Steve Young sit on your bench for years upon years. If Campbell isn't playing when his rookie contract is coming up, do you think he'll stick around? If he doesn't get his chance like Ramsey, will he stick around? Nope, he'll be gone and it's a waste of a draft pick.
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Old 09-16-2006, 06:25 PM   #11
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I think a common misconception is that this is some knee-jerk reaction to the first game. Mark Brunell didn't play poorly in the first game, but he also didn't play well. Personally, I thought Campbell should have been prepared and started this season. A new offense lots of new personel, it's the perfect time to make the switch. .....
A perfect time to switch QB's?
We won our first playoff game in over 10 years and were elimanted in the second round of the playoffs by the NFC Champs.
How was it a perfect time to throw out your incumbant QB?
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Old 09-16-2006, 11:17 PM   #12
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I think a common misconception is that this is some knee-jerk reaction to the first game. Mark Brunell didn't play poorly in the first game, but he also didn't play well.
Same can be said about our defense, but you say nothing about sitting them on the bench.
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Old 09-16-2006, 07:46 PM   #13
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Calm down, one game is one game. So we lost a Monday Night game. How many Monday Night games has Gibbs won? ZERO. Anyway, I think it is to our advantage that everyone thinks we suck. Everyone has thought we sucked for the last 4 years. At times our offense was unstoppable, at times it wasn't, we just need to work on some things and move on. And the defense needed to get an ass kickin' humble them, I know we have the besst D in the league. To say we need to look next year, well I barely made it to this year, I can't wait that long.
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Old 09-16-2006, 08:25 PM   #14
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Anyone who thinks we should put in campbell right now is a moron. It has been one game, and it was the first game in a new offense. Our only problem was in the redzone. We're fine. Shut up.
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Old 09-16-2006, 10:22 PM   #15
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I would not be OK with not putting our best effort in trying to get to 15-1, or 14-2 or 13-3. You should ask this question if we get to 1-12.

What makes you think Campbell isn't being developed now? Do you know these guys go to class and take tests on the game plan each week. Their test scores are a factor in whether they play. Do you know how Campbell is doing? No ? They watch a lot of film. You don't just look at tape, you have to learn what to look for. Some one teaches you that. And I hope, trust & pray that the Skins are really teaching Campbell how to be a professional-level, NFL quarterback, which is a whole lot different than being a college quarterback. Pro football is the same sport, but it ain't the same game!!! Campbell is in the second grade.

Joey Harrington, David Carr, Ryan Leaf, Alex Smith, JP Losman and Patrick Ramsey, now the #3 QB for the Jets, were all thrown out there.

That what you want?
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