ND 40 Mich 37 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[GTripp0012]

If you take the blinders off for a sec, and ask yourself whether a non-top ten team would have been capable of that comeback, you'd realize they are really as good as they are hyped. Both Michigan State and Michigan are VERY good teams. This is a team who beat Penn State at home be an insane margin. Watch as they beat up on the next 7 teams on the schedule, and go into USC with a Nat'l title game bid on the line.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

If you take the blinders off for a sec, and ask yourself whether a non-top ten team would have been capable of that comeback, you'd realize they are really as good as they are hyped. Both Michigan State and Michigan are VERY good teams. This is a team who beat Penn State at home be an insane margin. Watch as they beat up on the next 7 teams on the schedule, and go into USC with a Nat'l title game bid on the line.

Well gee whiz, let's look at the next 7 teams, shall we? Notre Dame is notorious for a cream puff schedule:

September 30 Purdue
October 7 Stanford
October 21 UCLA
October 28 at Navy
November 4 North Carolina
November 11 at Air Force
November 18 Army

Come on ... Army? Navy? UNC? Stanford is practically division II, UCLA blows. Why didn't they schedule the Salvation Army while they're at it?

Michigan State and Penn State are wanna-bees. And the Fighting Bums are gonna get creamed by USC. Then, they'll lose whatever bowl bid they get for an NCAA record 9th straight time.

Like I said, F*#! the Irish.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Well gee whiz, let's look at the next 7 teams, shall we? Notre Dame is notorious for a cream puff schedule:

September 30 Purdue
October 7 Stanford
October 21 UCLA
October 28 at Navy
November 4 North Carolina
November 11 at Air Force
November 18 Army

Come on ... Army? Navy? UNC? Stanford is practically division II, UCLA blows. Why didn't they schedule the Salvation Army while they're at it?

Michigan State and Penn State are wanna-bees. And the Fighting Bums are gonna get creamed by USC. Then, they'll lose whatever bowl bid they get for an NCAA record 9th straight time.

Like I said, F*#! the Irish.

I think they have the toughest non-conference schedule in the NCAA. I mean, yeah those are 7 powderpuff games, but they opened with a murderers row of GT, Penn State, Michigan, and State, and they STILL have yet to play USC. Sure there are some easy teams on the schedule, but only the SEC teams have it tougher.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I think they have the toughest non-conference schedule in the NCAA. I mean, yeah those are 7 powderpuff games, but they opened with a murderers row of GT, Penn State, Michigan, and State, and they STILL have yet to play USC. Sure there are some easy teams on the schedule, but only the SEC teams have it tougher.

Every team Notre Dame plays is non-conference because they're too afraid to get beaten up every week if they joined the Big Ten.

Georgia Tech is hardly part of "murderers row." They're #24 now and will be knocked out of the top 25 when Va Tech dispatches them this weekend. The Yellow Jackets have always been 'middle of the pack' in a very weak ACC. Penn State was good last year. Michigan State? Only Northwestern, Illinois and Indiana are worse in the Big Ten. And trust me, before they throttled Notre Dame, Michigan was considered to be on the decline. Only now are people talking about them as being any type of noise maker.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Every team Notre Dame plays is non-conference because they're too afraid to get beaten up every week if they joined the Big Ten.

Georgia Tech is hardly part of "murderers row." They're #24 now and will be knocked out of the top 25 when Va Tech dispatches them this weekend. The Yellow Jackets have always been 'middle of the pack' in a very weak ACC. Penn State was good last year. Michigan State? Only Northwestern, Illinois and Indiana are worse in the Big Ten. And trust me, before they throttled Notre Dame, Michigan was considered to be on the decline. Only now are people talking about them as being any type of noise maker.

Why would ND be afraid of getting beat up in the Big 10 (or is it 11) when they beat up the the Big 10 teams that they play every year. The Big 10 needs ND but ND does not need the Big 10. ND would gain nothing from joining a conference

[RJ2kWJ]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Every team Notre Dame plays is non-conference because they're too afraid to get beaten up every week if they joined the Big Ten.

Georgia Tech is hardly part of "murderers row." They're #24 now and will be knocked out of the top 25 when Va Tech dispatches them this weekend. The Yellow Jackets have always been 'middle of the pack' in a very weak ACC. Penn State was good last year. Michigan State? Only Northwestern, Illinois and Indiana are worse in the Big Ten. And trust me, before they throttled Notre Dame, Michigan was considered to be on the decline. Only now are people talking about them as being any type of noise maker.

WOOOOOO... Let Calvin come into Lane stadium and run train. I hope GT desimates Va Trash this weekend.

This coming from a huge Noles fan, not a GT fan.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Every team Notre Dame plays is non-conference because they're too afraid to get beaten up every week if they joined the Big Ten.

Georgia Tech is hardly part of "murderers row." They're #24 now and will be knocked out of the top 25 when Va Tech dispatches them this weekend. The Yellow Jackets have always been 'middle of the pack' in a very weak ACC. Penn State was good last year. Michigan State? Only Northwestern, Illinois and Indiana are worse in the Big Ten. And trust me, before they throttled Notre Dame, Michigan was considered to be on the decline. Only now are people talking about them as being any type of noise maker.

State did something against ND that I don't believe Minnesota, Purdue, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Illinois, Indiana, and maybe even Iowa wouldn't even be capable of. Penn State is ranked, deserves to be ranked, and still are absolutely not in the same class as the Irish. Win or lose, Michigan State has proved so far this year that they deserve to be top 25, and I could see them taking down Iowa or Michigan. Michigan may be the countries' most underrated team. I'm not saying that because they beat the Irish. I THOUGHT they would beat the Irish preseason (it's in the preseason NCAA FB thread). I also thought the Nat'l championship would be ND-West Virginia. I'm not going to change my prediction because it's been spot on so far. No one will come out of the Big Ten without a loss. Iowa and Michigan will lose one each. Ohio State and Mich. State will lose two each. (Yes, this means that Michigan will beat Ohio State)