santana moss

[FRPLG]

They thought Coles was #1 and didn't think Moss was gonna be worth what he would get in his big contract. I guess because he is small. The have to be kicking themselves now that the trend toward big lanky WR has died down a little and guys who can make plays, at any size, are en vogue.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

They thought Coles was #1 and didn't think Moss was gonna be worth what he would get in his big contract. I guess because he is small. The have to be kicking themselves now that the trend toward big lanky WR has died down a little and guys who can make plays, at any size, are en vogue.

Last time I checked Moss 5'10" and Coles 5"11" so I don't think size was an issue. I just think they never found out how to use Moss. They both are good WR's and it looks like Coles may have finally got over his toe issue but I still think Moss is much better at yards after the catch.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Last time I checked Moss 5'10" and Coles 5"11" so I don't think size was an issue. I just think they never found out how to use Moss. They both are good WR's and it looks like Coles may have finally got over his toe issue but I still think Moss is much better at yards after the catch.

Size was absolutely an issue. In fact the same argument you make was made then. Moss for some reason is looked at as being small and Coles average size.

The main thing that was said by "experts" when it happend was "he is fast but isn't big enougn to be a #1."

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Size was absolutely an issue. In fact the same argument you make was made then. Moss for some reason is looked at as being small and Coles average size.

The main thing that was said by "experts" when it happend was "he is fast but isn't big enougn to be a #1."

Maybe an issue for the "experts" but I do not see how coaches draw that conclusion. Coles is listed at one inch taller and 3 pounds heavier. Are these the same experts that had us at 8/8 last year at best.

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Last time I checked Moss 5'10" and Coles 5"11" so I don't think size was an issue. I just think they never found out how to use Moss. They both are good WR's and it looks like Coles may have finally got over his toe issue but I still think Moss is much better at yards after the catch.

I was at the Jets preseason game. First row, Jets side. I saw that Coles still had a noticeable limp. Don't know if it is still the toe, or what, but he does have a limp when he walks.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

I was at the Jets preseason game. First row, Jets side. I saw that Coles still had a noticeable limp. Don't know if it is still the toe, or what, but he does have a limp when he walks.

I thought I heard recently that he foot still has problems. I know he's also had a strained calf for a bit; don't know it it goes all the way back to that game, but maybe.

[memphisskin]

I've never seen them together, but Coles does appear to be a little bigger than Santana. I remember all the talk being that the Skins got hosed, but in the end Dan Snyder got the better of the deal and didn't have to give Coles a flat screen either. Just 9 million bucks. But it appears to be win-win, and on top Coles is stuck with a qb who can't throw deep so he's got to run the short stuff he complained so much about here. Moss is the man!

Oh, and maybe Snyder was on the right track in '01 when he wanted to draft Moss and Rottenheimer drafted Rod "50/50" Gardner.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by memphisskin

Oh, and maybe Snyder was on the right track in '01 when he wanted to draft Moss and Rottenheimer drafted Rod "50/50" Gardner.

Yeah, I've thought about that too -- what if we had drafted Santana Moss in '01? Would he still be here? I doubt it, knowing how much of a priority this front office has at keeping talent once they've found it.

Still, some players take awhile to blossom. Remember, Tiki Barber was so-so for the first 3 or 4 years in the league until he became an elite running back. I think the same happened with Santana Moss. I'm just glad we have him now that he seems to be peaking.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Last time I checked Moss 5'10" and Coles 5"11" so I don't think size was an issue. I just think they never found out how to use Moss. They both are good WR's and it looks like Coles may have finally got over his toe issue but I still think Moss is much better at yards after the catch.

I've never seen Coles up close and in person. But there's no way Moss is 5'10" He looked more to me like 5'8" (5'9" at the most)

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I've never seen Coles up close and in person. But there's no way Moss is 5'10" He looked more to me like 5'8" (5'9" at the most)

He was at CP's birthday party that I went to and yes he is not more than 5'8". But I would suspect Coles isn't either.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I've never seen Coles up close and in person. But there's no way Moss is 5'10" He looked more to me like 5'8" (5'9" at the most)

Yup, after the second Cowboys game, he was signing autographs and I'm 5'10" and I felt WAY bigger than him.