Joe Gibbs becoming like Mary Schottemhiemer

[gibbsisgod]

I'm sorry chris but I would hate to have you as a coach. At the time Hall missed that FG there was still 1:14 left in the 3rd quarter. It was only a 42 yarder and would have brought us within 10. TAKE THE POINTS every time when you are in that situation. If Hall makes that we only need a TD and another FG to tie. If you go for it and dont get it then you would still need 2 TDs to win, not to mention you now have nothing to show fora very productive drive. You cant honestly say it was a bad coaching desicion, can you?

[dall-assblows]

Originally Posted by gibbsisgod

I'm sorry chris but I would hate to have you as a coach. At the time Hall missed that FG there was still 1:14 left in the 3rd quarter. It was only a 42 yarder and would have brought us within 10. TAKE THE POINTS every time when you are in that situation. If Hall makes that we only need a TD and another FG to tie. If you go for it and dont get it then you would still need 2 TDs to win, not to mention you now have nothing to show fora very productive drive. You cant honestly say it was a bad coaching desicion, can you?

can i rent your space?

[gibbsisgod]

Originally Posted by dall-assblows

can i rent your space?

you have to do something for me first :FIREdevil . What say you?

[dall-assblows]

Originally Posted by gibbsisgod

you have to do something for me first :FIREdevil . What say you?

sell you my soul

[gibbsisgod]

Originally Posted by dall-assblows

sell you my soul

you gotta do better than that

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by gibbsisgod

I'm sorry chris but I would hate to have you as a coach. At the time Hall missed that FG there was still 1:14 left in the 3rd quarter. It was only a 42 yarder and would have brought us within 10. TAKE THE POINTS every time when you are in that situation. If Hall makes that we only need a TD and another FG to tie. If you go for it and dont get it then you would still need 2 TDs to win, not to mention you now have nothing to show fora very productive drive. You cant honestly say it was a bad coaching desicion, can you?

Originally Posted by RobH4413

1) Can your kicker make that?

A: Yes, the fact that he missed is awful, but hindsight is always 20-20. Hall is a very good kicker and I would think of that as an automatic 3. Scoring some points may have given the redskins some much needed momentum, and could have potentially changed the game

Yes, it was a bad coaching decision, and if Hall makes it, it's still a two-score game in a contest where your offense is struggling anyway. It's not as simple as "TAKE THE POINTS" anymore with John Hall. 42 yards for him is not automatic like it was 5 years ago. You have nothing to show for a productive drive when you miss a field goal too. One yard was all they needed -- one stinking yard.

Outside runner or not, Clinton Portis is supposed to get you one yard when you need it. Even if you think Portis isn't the right guy for 4th and 1, then why did they bring in T.J. Duckett?

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Yes, it was a bad coaching decision, and if Hall makes it, it's still a two-score game in a contest where your offense is struggling anyway. It's not as simple as "TAKE THE POINTS" anymore with John Hall. 42 yards for him is not automatic like it was 5 years ago. You have nothing to show for a productive drive when you miss a field goal too. One yard was all they needed -- one stinking yard.

Outside runner or not, Clinton Portis is supposed to get you one yard when you need it. Even if you think Portis isn't the right guy for 4th and 1, then why did they bring in T.J. Duckett?

I agree with you now, given the newly discovered status of Hall during the game. He wasn't healthy at that point. Gibbs knew he wasn't healthy... bad call, run on 4th and 1.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure Duckett was inactive for the game. That's why you can't bring in Duckett. I simply think that it would have been a very tough yard...as opposed to one stinking one. In the meadowlands, we weren't getting anything done, so it wouldn't suprise me if we couldn't muster the strength to get that one extra yard. I'll climb within 2 scores before i'll risk going for it on 4th and 1 in NY every time, especially given the context of this particular game.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

I agree with you now, given the newly discovered status of Hall during the game. He wasn't healthy at that point. Gibbs knew he wasn't healthy... bad call, run on 4th and 1.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure Duckett was inactive for the game. That's why you can't bring in Duckett. I simply think that it would have been a very tough yard...as opposed to one stinking one. In the meadowlands, we weren't getting anything done, so it wouldn't suprise me if we couldn't muster the strength to get that one extra yard. I'll climb within 2 scores before i'll risk going for it on 4th and 1 in NY every time, especially given the context of this particular game.

Duckett was active. Even so, they gave the ball to Portis on the goal line last week against Jacksonville. I'm not as convinced as everyone else seems to be that Portis is useless in short yardage.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by gibbsisgod

I'm sorry chris but I would hate to have you as a coach. At the time Hall missed that FG there was still 1:14 left in the 3rd quarter. It was only a 42 yarder and would have brought us within 10. TAKE THE POINTS every time when you are in that situation. If Hall makes that we only need a TD and another FG to tie. If you go for it and dont get it then you would still need 2 TDs to win, not to mention you now have nothing to show fora very productive drive. You cant honestly say it was a bad coaching desicion, can you?

I think the decision to pass on 3rd and 1 was worse than the decision to kick the field goal on 4th down. CP was averaging 4 yards a carry, you have Sellers, good blocking TE's and an offensive line that should have been able to get you that yard. Sometimes even the obvious play is the right call, all they had to do is execute it properly. Much better odds on 3rd and 1 than the pass play. Even if you lose two or three because the Giants make a good play, you still have a makeable field goal. Or maybe you get to 4th and inches and a quarterback sneak is all you need. Bad call on 3rd down.