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Old 10-11-2006, 12:33 PM   #1
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So you think JC would be an upgrade. Based on what? What little we've seen in a few preseason games? Damn, you must be a scout or something to know that he would be in "Pro Bowl form" if he played.

Please spare me with your armchair knowledge. JC an instant Pro Bowler? Don't make me laugh. Everyone is a freaking talent scout nowadays. Please.

I guess our coaching staff is just holding this Pro Bowler in waiting back. I guess they just don't understand talent otherwise why would this incrediblely talented QB not be in the lineup if he is indeed ready for prime time and ready for the Pro Bowl.

Your thoughts on JC are based totally on speculation and what you think, vs. what the coaches know.
Matty, as usual you're blowing this out of proportion. I see no where that he says Campbell is a Pro Bowl calibre quarterback. Maybe one day he will be, but that is yet to be seen. Answer me this: have we won games BECAUSE of Mark Brunell since he's been here? Sure, he doesn't throw picks, he also throws the ball away 50% of the time on 3rd down. I don't feel Brunell is an adequate quarterback to win games. If we go down by 14 points in the first quarter my hopes for a comeback are slim to none. Yes, Brunell played, for stretches, great last year. I have yet to see him play great this year.

While Campbell is an unknown, I'd rather lose with a young QB with promise learning, than an old QB losing it and on the decline. Campbell can make teams at least worry about the down field pass, especially with the speed we have to WR (maybe even RB, I'd love to see Portis run something deep!) Which will open up the offense. He'll certainly make a lot more mistakes, no one's doubting that.

That said, people such as Pat Kirwan (NFL Radio) mentioned before the season even started that he wasn't high on the Redskins namely because of Mark Brunell and thought that the skins wouldn't lose anything by starting Campbell, maybe even gain something. So there's a GM giving you that info. It's no secret that Gibbs has hardons for veterans, and obviously has trouble letting go when the time is right.

This is turning into "Mark Brunell didn't lose the Giants game for us." which is certainly true. However, he also did nothing to win it. It's time for the future, I simply don't think Mark Brunell can make teams respect him. If you can get any pressure with your front four, our offense is dead.

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I'm just wondering how you know AS knew JG would be involved when Gibbs himself said he was turning the O over to AS and it seems AS has total control until the team hits the 35. I understand and expect Gibbs to make the go/no go call on 4th down but I dont understand why a team would hire people and not let them do their job.
Most head coaches in the NFL have large egos. I don't think Gibbs is any different. They can't stand not being in "control".
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Old 10-11-2006, 12:41 PM   #2
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Re: What Is Wrong With The Offense?

Doesn't anyone else here find it ironic that people get all excited when talking about Gibbs' loyalty to the Redskins organization ("Oh he said he could never coach another team. He's not like Parcells. He's awesome!") yet at the same time bitch and moan when he shows loyalty to his players?
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Old 10-11-2006, 12:54 PM   #3
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Doesn't anyone else here find it ironic that people get all excited when talking about Gibbs' loyalty to the Redskins organization ("Oh he said he could never coach another team. He's not like Parcells. He's awesome!") yet at the same time bitch and moan when he shows loyalty to his players?
Nobody' questioning Gibb's loyalty to the team or to his players. I just feel like Mark needs to produce now or move over, so at least we can see if JC is the real deal. Who knows, we may find out that JC can't produce either. What ever the case, if you take a look around the NFL all of the successful teams have proven QB's. You have to have a solid foundation to build on, and the QB position has to be the most stable and unchanged. Even if Mark gets us to the playoffs, and thats a big IF. What next? He hasn't got 10 more years in him.


Isn't it time for Jason Campbell?
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Old 10-11-2006, 01:22 PM   #4
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Nobody' questioning Gibb's loyalty to the team or to his players. I just feel like Mark needs to produce now or move over, so at least we can see if JC is the real deal. Who knows, we may find out that JC can't produce either. What ever the case, if you take a look around the NFL all of the successful teams have proven QB's. You have to have a solid foundation to build on, and the QB position has to be the most stable and unchanged. Even if Mark gets us to the playoffs, and thats a big IF. What next? He hasn't got 10 more years in him.


Isn't it time for Jason Campbell?

Who cares about loyality. People are paid to be loyal in pro sports today. I (and I think most fans as well) only care about winning and if loyality or whatever one wants to call it gets in the way of winning than its not doing anyone any good.
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