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Old 10-23-2006, 03:58 PM   #1
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Re: Joe And Vinny Must Go.

This thread needs to go!

How the f do you lump Joe Gibbs and Vinny in the same breath? Joe Gibbs is the redskins...if your going to run him out of town then send the helmets & shoulderpads with him and board up Redskins Park...
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Old 10-23-2006, 04:08 PM   #2
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This thread needs to go!

How the f do you lump Joe Gibbs and Vinny in the same breath? Joe Gibbs is the redskins...if your going to run him out of town then send the helmets & shoulderpads with him and board up Redskins Park...
god knows i question Gibb's decisions a lot here, but you speak the truth. Gibbs IS the Redskins, good with the bad. he is human, and loyalty is a good fault to have as faults go.

anyone prefer Parcells?
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Old 10-23-2006, 04:22 PM   #3
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god knows i question Gibb's decisions a lot here, but you speak the truth. Gibbs IS the Redskins, good with the bad. he is human, and loyalty is a good fault to have as faults go.

anyone prefer Parcells?
The irony is that it's mainly because of Gibbs and the great glory years he brought us that many of are upset now. Had we never known what he and this team could and has accomplished we may not feel the way we do now.
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Old 10-23-2006, 06:25 PM   #4
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The irony is that it's mainly because of Gibbs and the great glory years he brought us that many of are upset now. Had we never known what he and this team could and has accomplished we may not feel the way we do now.
you're absolutely right. if we didn't know better, we could be comparing his coaching style to Norv Turner's!

but we DO know better, we do...
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Old 10-23-2006, 04:16 PM   #5
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I cant believe anyone is asking for Joe to go. We were two games from the superbowl last year. Vinny no thats another story. The problem we face as fans is not the Joe cant coach. It is he has to much control. He did not have this kind of control last time around. One or two years before he retired he demanded that Bobby Bethard go or he would. Cook picked Joe Gibbs, and then a short time later he retired. This pssed me off, but I still would rather have it this way than any other. I believe Joe Gibbs will get this team together before he retires.
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Re: Joe And Vinny Must Go.

clearly firing the owner is out of the question.
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Old 10-23-2006, 06:46 PM   #7
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this thread is retarded. i see the title of the thread and have to think, "gibbs must go, but i'm a fan" go shit in your hat.
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Old 10-23-2006, 06:49 PM   #8
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Re: Joe And Vinny Must Go.

I say keep Joe as the coach but remove him from all personnel decisions.
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Old 10-23-2006, 06:53 PM   #9
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I say keep Joe as the coach but remove him from all personnel decisions.
Sort of like the Seahawks did with Holmgren. My feeling though is that Gibbs wouldn't accept that.
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Old 10-24-2006, 02:06 PM   #10
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Sort of like the Seahawks did with Holmgren. My feeling though is that Gibbs wouldn't accept that.
You know at this point, it's not about what JG would accept. It's about what's best for the Washington Redskins! We need a real GM! HAIL from MCUSA!
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Old 10-24-2006, 02:09 PM   #11
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You know at this point, it's not about what JG would accept. It's about what's best for the Washington Redskins! We need a real GM! HAIL from MCUSA!
Gibbs is not the GM...he's coach and team president. Vinny & the other scouts have much more to do with the overall roster than Gibbs does. I am sure Gibbs hand picked MB and JC but he is not acting as GM here. They do need to fire Vinny and get a GM but that has nothing to do with Gibbs job...
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Old 10-25-2006, 12:01 PM   #12
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I say keep Joe as the coach but remove him from all personnel decisions.
Does anyone still honestly believe that personnel at the skill positions (other than qb) is the problem? We have a freaking all star team. They just need to be coached and have plays called in a manner that takes advantage of their talent. How does Saunders go from having a powerful offense in KC with trent green (he puts up #'s in the system, but no way he's a "premier qb.") and a bunch of 2nd and 3rd tier wideouts, to nothing but 5 yard out patterns, screen plays and running the ball 75% of the time with a) Santana Moss- a top 10 receiver in the league b) Antwaan Randel El- a great all around weapon c) Brandon Lloyd- not a #1 but definitely an above average #2 d)CLINTON FUCKING PORTIS e) Chris Cooley- a clutch te/hb who's emerging as a leader on the team...? I just don't get it. It all looks so good on paper. These are legit players who have played at a high level in the NFL. This offense is like taking filet mignon and making a burger out of it. The meal just doesn't live up to the ingredients. And the defense would be a hell of a lot better if we could sustain drives to keep them off of the field.
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Does anyone still honestly believe that personnel at the skill positions (other than qb) is the problem? We have a freaking all star team. They just need to be coached and have plays called in a manner that takes advantage of their talent. How does Saunders go from having a powerful offense in KC with trent green (he puts up #'s in the system, but no way he's a "premier qb.") and a bunch of 2nd and 3rd tier wideouts, to nothing but 5 yard out patterns, screen plays and running the ball 75% of the time with a) Santana Moss- a top 10 receiver in the league b) Antwaan Randel El- a great all around weapon c) Brandon Lloyd- not a #1 but definitely an above average #2 d)CLINTON FUCKING PORTIS e) Chris Cooley- a clutch te/hb who's emerging as a leader on the team...? I just don't get it. It all looks so good on paper. These are legit players who have played at a high level in the NFL. This offense is like taking filet mignon and making a burger out of it. The meal just doesn't live up to the ingredients. And the defense would be a hell of a lot better if we could sustain drives to keep them off of the field.
Agreed.

I don't see talent as a problem right now.

The pieces of the puzzle are there, it's just not coming together for a variety of reasons.
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Old 10-23-2006, 06:52 PM   #14
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i say this i joe gibbs team and he has earned the respect to give him as much time as it takes. leave the idea of gibbs leaving alone.
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Old 10-24-2006, 01:59 PM   #15
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Re: Joe And Vinny Must Go.

This thread is so f-ing rediculous...I would not fire Gibbs if it were a 100% certainty that they would win next years Super Bowl as a result. It's just not worth it to me...Gibbs is the Redskins in my eyes.
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