Joe And Vinny Must Go.

That Guy · 10-25-2006, 04:57 PM

jeff is better than a guy like billick. as as the owner of a business, you've got to have contingency plans.

CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR · 10-25-2006, 08:16 PM

Little Danny probably doesnt like GW because he doesnt kiss his A-- like Gibbs and Vinny do. GW know he doesnt have to put up with his B.S. He'll get another job easily.

CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR · 10-25-2006, 08:19 PM

Would be great to get Fisher he a tuff hard nose coach is what this team needs. Not like this candy a-- training camp we had this season. Training camp set the tone for what was going to happen this season. The only drawback to having Fisher is he would have to put up with Vinny and Little Danny Boy. We need a Gm like right now to run this team, not the clowns that are doing it now. So unfortually that the reason i dont think Fisher would come here and ruin his reputation.

Hog1 · 10-26-2006, 05:24 AM

According to Bram (when pushed by Larry on Redskin lunch show), his info came from an "Industry source". He reiterated, a "reliable industry source", for what it's worth

krathod · 10-26-2006, 10:36 AM

Good points Gents. I believe Danny Boy had a great opportunity 3 years ago when Ron Wolf was available as GM. He was the architect of the Green Bay Packers when they had Mike Holmgren and several talented players he had picked through the draft.

And here is the kicker- He lives in our backyard in Fairfax County, VA!!

I think the deal killer was the fact that Ron Wolf wanted a percentage of the team, around 1-2%. I'm not a financial genius, but if he can build a Super Bowl contender and eventual Champion evident by his track record- then why the hell not!

BrunellMVP? · 10-26-2006, 03:58 PM

what we need is to have steady coaching for years in a row along with the addition of a few players...not a wholesale change...williams D has always been a bend but don't break...that is, not dominant. He has never built a DOMINANT D that forced turnovers and destroyed opposing offenses week in, week out. he is supremely overrated, and arrogant. he needs to understand that a good coach maximizes talent...do you think he's doing that?
As for implementing a new scheme? that was dumb as well...saunders may be a genius, but players arent'...therefore they need time to learn the system...
so despite these issues, lets keep the coaches...draft some talents (Trade players???) and for god's sake CAN BRUNELL.

TheMalcolmConnection · 10-26-2006, 04:04 PM

I would have thought we were pretty dominant in 2004. What really pisses me off about turnovers with this team, is ALL luck. We NEVER get on fumbles, EVER. It's been since Gibbs came back, if a ball is on the ground, the other team gets it.

Hog1 · 10-26-2006, 04:22 PM

Just to throw a little more gas on the fire for the conspiracy theorists, X-filers, etc. Fisher would need a job until Joe2 retires. Hmmmmm, GW's D is on it's ass. Is not Jeff a D guy?

MTK · 10-27-2006, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog1

Just to throw a little more gas on the fire for the conspiracy theorists, X-filers, etc. Fisher would need a job until Joe2 retires. Hmmmmm, GW's D is on it's ass. Is not Jeff a D guy?

Nice thought, but if Fisher became available, I would guarantee someone would snatch him up as their next head coach in a matter of minutes. There's no way he would have to take a step down. He would definitely be the hottest head coaching commodity around.

BrunellMVP? · 10-27-2006, 09:30 AM

i hear you on 2004, but i've always though we give up too many yards (if not tds)...a dominant team forces turnovers and wins games, a la Chicago, ravens, etc. Only guys that get balls on the ground are taylor and washington, and taylor gets burned far too often. As for this years team, i have zero faith in the D. We can't cover, therefore we can't blitz, AND we have no pass rush so even marginal QBs can pick us apart.

The Zimmermans · 10-27-2006, 02:30 PM

We don't need Jeff Fisher, we have JOE GIBBS. Jeff fisher aint winning with no talent in tennessee, and he aint gonna with with no talent here. A GM is the main need, someone with some intelligence, who can cator to the needs of williams and saunders specifically, right now, we have no idea what we want or need. We just act on the first free agent available, no matter what.

TheMalcolmConnection · 10-27-2006, 02:31 PM

So tell me where we have glaring holes? I'm all ears.

That Guy · 10-27-2006, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

So tell me where we have glaring holes? I'm all ears.

LOLB, SS, CB, CB, DL, QB, P, K

some due to injuries. we have possible repalcements for LOLB, SS, QB.

TheMalcolmConnection · 10-27-2006, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by That Guy

LOLB, SS, CB, CB, DL, QB, P, K

some due to injuries. we have possible repalcements for LOLB, SS, QB.

I'll agree at K, but at SS we totally overpaid for what he brings to the table, but once he's allowed to play the way he was meant to, he'll be fine. I don't think we have holes at CB. Sure, Springs is old, but I'm talking in terms of this year.I really only see LOLB and K.

The Zimmermans · 10-27-2006, 02:34 PM

To start off.....we have the slowest defense ever, especially in the secondary, and the worst pass rushing D-line in the NFL. We also have no QB capable of surmounting a drive over 50 yards.

I don't think it's a matter of motivation on defense, it's talent.

10-25-2006, 04:57 PM	#1
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	Re: Joe And Vinny Must Go. jeff is better than a guy like billick. as as the owner of a business, you've got to have contingency plans.

10-25-2006, 08:16 PM	#2
CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: va Age: 59 Posts: 890	Re: Joe And Vinny Must Go. Little Danny probably doesnt like GW because he doesnt kiss his A-- like Gibbs and Vinny do. GW know he doesnt have to put up with his B.S. He'll get another job easily.

10-25-2006, 08:19 PM	#3
CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: va Age: 59 Posts: 890	Re: Joe And Vinny Must Go. Would be great to get Fisher he a tuff hard nose coach is what this team needs. Not like this candy a-- training camp we had this season. Training camp set the tone for what was going to happen this season. The only drawback to having Fisher is he would have to put up with Vinny and Little Danny Boy. We need a Gm like right now to run this team, not the clowns that are doing it now. So unfortually that the reason i dont think Fisher would come here and ruin his reputation.

10-26-2006, 05:24 AM	#4
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Joe And Vinny Must Go. According to Bram (when pushed by Larry on Redskin lunch show), his info came from an "Industry source". He reiterated, a "reliable industry source", for what it's worth __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

10-26-2006, 10:36 AM	#5
krathod Camp Scrub Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2	Re: Joe And Vinny Must Go. Good points Gents. I believe Danny Boy had a great opportunity 3 years ago when Ron Wolf was available as GM. He was the architect of the Green Bay Packers when they had Mike Holmgren and several talented players he had picked through the draft. And here is the kicker- He lives in our backyard in Fairfax County, VA!! I think the deal killer was the fact that Ron Wolf wanted a percentage of the team, around 1-2%. I'm not a financial genius, but if he can build a Super Bowl contender and eventual Champion evident by his track record- then why the hell not!

10-26-2006, 03:58 PM	#6
BrunellMVP? Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 726	Re: Joe And Vinny Must Go. what we need is to have steady coaching for years in a row along with the addition of a few players...not a wholesale change...williams D has always been a bend but don't break...that is, not dominant. He has never built a DOMINANT D that forced turnovers and destroyed opposing offenses week in, week out. he is supremely overrated, and arrogant. he needs to understand that a good coach maximizes talent...do you think he's doing that? As for implementing a new scheme? that was dumb as well...saunders may be a genius, but players arent'...therefore they need time to learn the system... so despite these issues, lets keep the coaches...draft some talents (Trade players???) and for god's sake CAN BRUNELL. __________________ in writing these daily letters and trying to make them interesting it is always possible that some sentiment may occur which has not received the severe and deliberate scrutiny and reconsideration which should attach to a State Paper. - Churchill

10-26-2006, 04:04 PM	#7
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: Joe And Vinny Must Go. I would have thought we were pretty dominant in 2004. What really pisses me off about turnovers with this team, is ALL luck. We NEVER get on fumbles, EVER. It's been since Gibbs came back, if a ball is on the ground, the other team gets it. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

10-26-2006, 04:22 PM	#8
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Joe And Vinny Must Go. Just to throw a little more gas on the fire for the conspiracy theorists, X-filers, etc. Fisher would need a job until Joe2 retires. Hmmmmm, GW's D is on it's ass. Is not Jeff a D guy? __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

10-27-2006, 09:30 AM	#10
BrunellMVP? Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 726	Re: Joe And Vinny Must Go. i hear you on 2004, but i've always though we give up too many yards (if not tds)...a dominant team forces turnovers and wins games, a la Chicago, ravens, etc. Only guys that get balls on the ground are taylor and washington, and taylor gets burned far too often. As for this years team, i have zero faith in the D. We can't cover, therefore we can't blitz, AND we have no pass rush so even marginal QBs can pick us apart. __________________ in writing these daily letters and trying to make them interesting it is always possible that some sentiment may occur which has not received the severe and deliberate scrutiny and reconsideration which should attach to a State Paper. - Churchill

10-27-2006, 02:30 PM	#11
The Zimmermans Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Woodley Park, Washington DC Age: 42 Posts: 937	Re: Joe And Vinny Must Go. We don't need Jeff Fisher, we have JOE GIBBS. Jeff fisher aint winning with no talent in tennessee, and he aint gonna with with no talent here. A GM is the main need, someone with some intelligence, who can cator to the needs of williams and saunders specifically, right now, we have no idea what we want or need. We just act on the first free agent available, no matter what. __________________ Dan Snyder is a Cancer, Joe Gibbs is the Cure

10-27-2006, 02:31 PM	#12
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: Joe And Vinny Must Go. So tell me where we have glaring holes? I'm all ears. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

10-27-2006, 02:34 PM	#15
The Zimmermans Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Woodley Park, Washington DC Age: 42 Posts: 937	Re: Joe And Vinny Must Go. To start off.....we have the slowest defense ever, especially in the secondary, and the worst pass rushing D-line in the NFL. We also have no QB capable of surmounting a drive over 50 yards. I don't think it's a matter of motivation on defense, it's talent. __________________ Dan Snyder is a Cancer, Joe Gibbs is the Cure

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