It's not Brunell's fault!

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

What I'm saying is suppose Campbell comes out there and he's throwing the same passes, 3 step drop and screen. And we see that whoever is at QB we're still running the same offense, then who do we blame-Gibbs, Saunders, Campbell, the O-line? All I'm saying is we all assume that Campbell is going to come in and launch bombs all game long, but isn't it entirely possible that may not be the case?

If you've heard any of Saunders' comments, he's constantly talking about limiting his play calling. He doesn't directly say that Brunell can't handle it, but he says things like "Mark is good at shorter passes and quick drops" i.e. he can't throw deep. I'm positive that a lot of it is play calling, but it's directly related to Brunell's ability. I don't think Saunders would refrain from calling long passes with Campbell in the lineup.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

If you've heard any of Saunders' comments, he's constantly talking about limiting his play calling. He doesn't directly say that Brunell can't handle it, but he says things like "Mark is good at shorter passes and quick drops" i.e. he can't throw deep. I'm positive that a lot of it is play calling, but it's directly related to Brunell's ability. I don't think Saunders would refrain from calling long passes with Campbell in the lineup.

saunders is just covering his @$$. he's already implied he can be vetoed, that brunell isn't any good, that campbell is stupid, that he can't run his offense, the whole portis taking himself out of games things (only AFTER the 3rd down wasn't converted, not before), said that the playbook wasn't being used (AFTER people complained in preseason), and complained that he couldn't see the players in preseason (AFTER they fell flat in week 1), and complained that the talent isn't there.

if you need an excuse, he's the guy to ask.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by That Guy

saunders is just covering his @$$. he's already implied he can be vetoed, that brunell isn't any good, that campbell is stupid, that he can't run his offense, the whole portis taking himself out of games things (only AFTER the 3rd down wasn't converted, not before), said that the playbook wasn't being used (AFTER people complained in preseason), and complained that he couldn't see the players in preseason (AFTER they fell flat in week 1), and complained that the talent isn't there.

if you need an excuse, he's the guy to ask.

Saunders is making excuses, but there's some validity to them. Do you really think Brunell is capable of throwing intermediate to deep passes with any reliability?

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Saunders is making excuses, but there's some validity to them. Do you really think Brunell is capable of throwing intermediate to deep passes with any reliability?

there has to be, or else he wouldn't make them. it's just nice how he always has an answer as to why it's not his fault only after the fact.

[joekes]

Originally Posted by That Guy

saunders is just covering his @$$. he's already implied he can be vetoed, that brunell isn't any good, that campbell is stupid, that he can't run his offense, the whole portis taking himself out of games things (only AFTER the 3rd down wasn't converted, not before), said that the playbook wasn't being used (AFTER people complained in preseason), and complained that he couldn't see the players in preseason (AFTER they fell flat in week 1), and complained that the talent isn't there.

if you need an excuse, he's the guy to ask.

I completely agree!
Saunders has acted like an arrogant fool ever since the preseason. He refused to run the plays in preseason so he wouldn't show too much, but what could have been stupider than that considering how long it's taken for the system to develop. Ooops.
Then anything that goes wrong he just says that "the system works" and passes the blame to the players.
He's the Offensive coordinator- it's his job to make the system work with the players he has, not just pout like a little bitch that he doesn't have Trent Green and hall of fame offensive linemen.
I wasn't a fan of his KC offense anyway- they could never win when it mattered (NO playoff wins in 5 years), but his arrogance that it can't possibly be his fault is unacceptable - it's his job to adapt. These are the players he has. I mean if he's only a good offensive coordinator with great players, then he's not a good offensive coordinator.

Does anyone know if he actually called the plays in KC (I know he didn't in St. Louis), but did he call them in KC? Or did Vermeil?
Maybe he's just not a good playcaller? Especially, maybe he's not good at making halftime adjustments to his playcalling - something Gibbs always excelled at.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by joekes

I completely agree!
Saunders has acted like an arrogant fool ever since the preseason. He refused to run the plays in preseason so he wouldn't show too much, but what could have been stupider than that considering how long it's taken for the system to develop. Ooops.
Then anything that goes wrong he just says that "the system works" and passes the blame to the players.
He's the Offensive coordinator- it's his job to make the system work with the players he has, not just pout like a little bitch that he doesn't have Trent Green and hall of fame offensive linemen.
I wasn't a fan of his KC offense anyway- they could never win when it mattered (NO playoff wins in 5 years), but his arrogance that it can't possibly be his fault is unacceptable - it's his job to adapt. These are the players he has. I mean if he's only a good offensive coordinator with great players, then he's not a good offensive coordinator.

Does anyone know if he actually called the plays in KC (I know he didn't in St. Louis), but did he call them in KC? Or did Vermeil?
Maybe he's just not a good playcaller? Especially, maybe he's not good at making halftime adjustments to his playcalling - something Gibbs always excelled at.

i believe he called plays in KC. it's easier with HoF OL and good QBs though.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

If you've heard any of Saunders' comments, he's constantly talking about limiting his play calling. He doesn't directly say that Brunell can't handle it, but he says things like "Mark is good at shorter passes and quick drops" i.e. he can't throw deep. I'm positive that a lot of it is play calling, but it's directly related to Brunell's ability. I don't think Saunders would refrain from calling long passes with Campbell in the lineup.

What's interesting though is if you look at the Chiefs from last year Green didn't have that many deep completions really. What I don't know is how many deep attempts he had