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Old 03-08-2004, 02:32 PM   #1
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Well with Coles, Gardner, etc. we don't need him at WR but it takes CB's a couple years to start playing right. Smoot is still in his learning curve years and doing excellent Jimoh was a rookie CB we'll see how much he has improved you can't teach speed. in the defensive secondary thats what you need. Bye Bowen the paper tiger safety. Keyshawn Touchdown!!! and we were still in the game. and on the plays jimoh got burned where was the safety help??????????? I dont doubt jimoh but a rookie CB that was in position but just didnt make the play isnt a terrible player. Let him compete if he makes the team he is good to have around learning. You got to develop CB's constantly they are too hard to find. Unless you have a d-line like the panthers you need good CB's or your defense wont cut it. Ask Denver.
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Old 03-08-2004, 02:38 PM   #2
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Since if we sign Butler from the Rams we will only be about 1 million under the cap I got to believe we are going to trade down. Thats not enough green to sign a top five guy and since we only have to 2 picks this year I think we would be better off trading own to get a D-lineman.
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Old 03-08-2004, 06:34 PM   #3
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Since if we sign Butler from the Rams we will only be about 1 million under the cap I got to believe we are going to trade down. Thats not enough green to sign a top five guy and since we only have to 2 picks this year I think we would be better off trading own to get a D-lineman.
Don't forget, the Skins could still release Larry Moore, Trung Canidate and/or Byron Chamberlain and free up around $2.5 million. But I tend to think the Skins will be trading down to the middle of the first round, and picking up a guy like Udeze. I don't think the Rams will match on Butler's offer sheet, so the Skins will only have one pick. Outside of Sean Taylor, it would be tough to justify taking a defensive guy at the #5 spot, when so much premier offensive talent would be available to attract bidders for a trade. I find it hard to believe that the Skins are comfortable going into next season without a significant pass rusher on the D-line (despite Gregg Williams' recent assurances they are prepared to do so), so the most logical move would seem to be trading down to the middle of the first round, where they can get the pass rusher they need, and also pick up at least a 2nd rounder, probably more. Until the draft comes, you can be assured that the Skins will play up the idea of using the #5 pick, possibly on an offensive guy, to rally more bidders for a trade.
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My thoughts exactly Joe, we will definitely be making more room in the salary cap with cuts, right now we have a lot of players that have already been replaced...
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Old 03-08-2004, 10:14 PM   #5
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mike williams isn't even the best williams wr in the draft so why would we draft him. I know he's a good wr but if we were to draft one hopefully after trading down, I say we draft Roy Williams. he's the best overall wr physically and skillwise.
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Amen, Roy Williams is by far the superior WR in this draft. I love how he's been tearing it up consistantly forever.

Either way I want Taylor.

I don't think our D line is in trouble at all. We got decent hard working D linemen and we still might get more. Plus with Taylor an abundance of D backs and linebackers to rush. I think we'll be fine provided the D line gets a little push and our blitzers come free!
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Old 03-09-2004, 12:19 AM   #7
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I hope they trade down and somehow come up with Udeze and Jake Grove if he slips. Grove is the missing piece on the OL and Gibbs likes him.
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Old 03-09-2004, 03:25 PM   #8
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Don't forget, the Skins could still release Larry Moore, Trung Canidate and/or Byron Chamberlain and free up around $2.5 million. But I tend to think the Skins will be trading down to the middle of the first round, and picking up a guy like Udeze. I don't think the Rams will match on Butler's offer sheet, so the Skins will only have one pick. Outside of Sean Taylor, it would be tough to justify taking a defensive guy at the #5 spot, when so much premier offensive talent would be available to attract bidders for a trade. I find it hard to believe that the Skins are comfortable going into next season without a significant pass rusher on the D-line (despite Gregg Williams' recent assurances they are prepared to do so), so the most logical move would seem to be trading down to the middle of the first round, where they can get the pass rusher they need, and also pick up at least a 2nd rounder, probably more. Until the draft comes, you can be assured that the Skins will play up the idea of using the #5 pick, possibly on an offensive guy, to rally more bidders for a trade.
The 1 prob. with that is getting an impact pass rushing end in the middle of the rd. I don't think it can be done unless we get lucky, who would you take that would make that kind of an impact in the middle of the 1st? Drafting a defensive end isn't a prob. but if we draft a guy in the middle of the first we will be looking next year for another D-end and we won't have taylor to show for this draft, mediocur D-end's are a dime a dozen, If the guy isn't special don't waste a pick on him.
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Old 03-09-2004, 03:48 PM   #9
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Sounds to me like Udeze could be a special player ... it's just that there seem to be a lot of special players in the top half of the first round and that's driving his stock down.
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The 1 prob. with that is getting an impact pass rushing end in the middle of the rd. I don't think it can be done unless we get lucky, who would you take that would make that kind of an impact in the middle of the 1st? Drafting a defensive end isn't a prob. but if we draft a guy in the middle of the first we will be looking next year for another D-end and we won't have taylor to show for this draft, mediocur D-end's are a dime a dozen, If the guy isn't special don't waste a pick on him.
Guys like Kenechi Udeze, Will Smith, Randy Starks, Darnell Dockett, and Vince Wilfork have all been projected as sub-top ten picks who could be available in the middle to bottom of the first round. All would probably be immediate starters and significant upgrades on the D-line. If the Skins pick up one of those guys and get another pick or two to land a tight end and/or safety, I'd be happy. Yes, Taylor is almost a sure thing, but any one of the afore-mentioned D-linemen could be standouts in their rookie year as well. I'll be happy either way. I certainly wouldn't be disappointed to see them pickup Taylor at #5.
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