Brunell is all class and tough as nails...but now we have to say goodbye

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

You are comparing apples to oranges.

Meaningless clichés don't do it for me. How so?

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

Meaningless clichés don't do it for me. How so?

The Bears defense has not taken a nose dive like ours has obviously done this year. The Bears were winning with Kyle because they had the #1 defense in the league which takes off tons of pressure on the offense. Couple that with a good solid running game and it's obvious why they're winning.

Our running game has not been consistent this year. We've brought in a new offensive system and there are obvious problems with pass protection. Even if Campbell comes in and lights it up, we still have problems with pass protection (which is why I don't feel Campbell would be that successful this year anyway,) Portis is still injured, and our defense still hasn't learned to tackle and to NOT give up the big play.

It is irresponsible to assume that bringing in a new QB fixes it all. It is NOT a black and white situation.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

The Bears defense has not taken a nose dive like ours has obviously done this year. The Bears were winning with Kyle because they had the #1 defense in the league which takes off tons of pressure on the offense. Couple that with a good solid running game and it's obvious why they're winning.

Our running game has not been consistent this year. We've brought in a new offensive system and there are obvious problems with pass protection. Even if Campbell comes in and lights it up, we still have problems with pass protection (which is why I don't feel Campbell would be that successful this year anyway,) Portis is still injured, and our defense still hasn't learned to tackle and to NOT give up the big play.

It is irresponsible to assume that bringing in a new QB fixes it all. It is NOT a black and white situation.

Do you know how good our skill players are?

P Manning would have 60 TD's in our offense.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

Do you know how good our skill players are?

P Manning would have 60 TD's in our offense.

Bingo!

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

Do you know how good our skill players are?

P Manning would have 60 TD's in our offense.

Now you are really stretching it! Hhhmmmm....And how many points did Peyton Mannings' team score yesterday? He isn't exactly lighting it up this year either. This isn't Madden football or playstation.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Now you are really stretching it! Hhhmmmm....And how many points did Peyton Mannings' team score yesterday? He isn't exactly lighting it up this year either. This isn't Madden football or playstation.

Peyton and Marvin are on the same wavelength so we don't really have anybody better than him.

Moss is better than Wayne arguably right there with Marvin now.
Cooley is better than any tight end that he ever had.
I think that Portis is better than James.
Lloyd and Randle El are better than Stokely and the other guys.

The lines are pretty close

I am amazed at our offensive talent less one.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

Peyton and Marvin are on the same wavelength so we don't really have anybody better than him.

Moss is better than Wayne arguably right there with Marvin now.
Cooley is better than any tight end that he ever had.
I think that Portis is better than James.
Lloyd and Randle El are better than Stokely and the other guys.

The lines are pretty close

I am amazed at our offensive talent less one.

I never said we don't have talent on our offense. But again, you're comparing an offense that has been in place for quite a while now, to an offense that has been in place for two seasons, only to be changed again with Al Saunders coming into the picture. If Peyton Manning became our QB next year, he'd have to go through the same learning curve as any other QB trying to learn this system. While I believe he would do a better job than Brunell, I wouldn't expect ANY QB to come in and fix all of our problems,and it's idiotic to over simplify our problems by blaming it all on one position.

The whole team has played bad.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

I never said we don't have talent on our offense. But again, you're comparing an offense that has been in place for quite a while now, to an offense that has been in place for two seasons, only to be changed again with Al Saunders coming into the picture. If Peyton Manning became our QB next year, he'd have to go through the same learning curve as any other QB trying to learn this system. While I believe he would do a better job than Brunell, I wouldn't expect ANY QB to come in and fix all of our problems,and it's idiotic to over simplify our problems by blaming it all on one position.

The whole team has played bad.

The QB position has the greatest ability to dictate the result of the game. Ours gave us negative points yesterday, therefore we were humiliated.

And when did I ever say that a QB would come in here and fix all of our problems? That would be an idiotic statement. Now our offensive problems lie with our hurt over the hill QB.

If Manning came here he would add 100 pages to the playbook. The guy is a coach on the field and I am in awe of how his ability to run an offense.

[Twilbert07]

Brunell says pass protection yesterday was fine; therefore, it's all on him:

"I didn't play as well as I needed to," he said. "I thought our offensive line did a good job pass protecting. We ran the ball well. We needed to be more consistent in the passing game." The problem is, at this stage of his career, Brunell doesn't appear capable of playing as well as he needs to -- that is, well enough to take the Redskins deep into the playoffs.

Source: The Washington Times

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Now you are really stretching it! Hhhmmmm....And how many points did Peyton Mannings' team score yesterday? He isn't exactly lighting it up this year either. This isn't Madden football or playstation.

In case you missed some of his prior brilliance, he exaggerates. At least that's how he explains away his lack of football IQ.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

In case you missed some of his prior brilliance, he exaggerates. At least that's how he explains away his lack of football IQ.

I guess I got under your skin today, huh, Matty?

I wasn't the one that said:

"The message is the team is going to fight through until the season is officially out of reach".

After this post you cannot question anybody's football IQ period.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

I guess I got under your skin today, huh, Matty?

I wasn't the one that said:

"The message is the team is going to fight through until the season is officially out of reach".

After this post you cannot question anybody's football IQ period.

Who got under who's skin?

If Brunell is still starting next week what do you think the message is? Gibbs has already alluded to the fact that wants the team to continue fighting as they did in 2004, so how far fetched is my post really?