"with the first pick in the 2007 draft, the redskins select..."

RJ2kWJ · 11-13-2006, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dall-assblows

but if an impact, amazing, game changing player is there, dont you take him?

Evidently not... Look at the Texans this past draft...

SkinsLove24/7 · 11-13-2006, 04:00 PM

Why not use a first round pick to draft a cornerback. That is a problem that needs to be addressed with Springs only with a few more years and Rogers struggling recently. Josh Wilson of Maryland will be a stud in the NFL and another quality pick out of Maryland in the last few years.

BigSKINBauer · 11-14-2006, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SkinsLove24/7

Why not use a first round pick to draft a cornerback. That is a problem that needs to be addressed with Springs only with a few more years and Rogers struggling recently. Josh Wilson of Maryland will be a stud in the NFL and another quality pick out of Maryland in the last few years.

thats what i am talking about. JOsh Wilson is a mother f...ing monster.

dall-assblows · 11-13-2006, 04:02 PM

we can get a corner through FA. like that bufflo dude, i forget his name

TheMalcolmConnection · 11-13-2006, 04:03 PM

Rogers hasn't been struggling. Seriously. It's like people have that opinion, then they read it and have it themselves. REALLY, what causes anyone to think he's struggling. I think the cushion he gives is due to playcalling, not on his own.

Big C · 11-13-2006, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Rogers hasn't been struggling. Seriously. It's like people have that opinion, then they read it and have it themselves. REALLY, what causes anyone to think he's struggling. I think the cushion he gives is due to playcalling, not on his own.

that is not what greg williams said, or post game said. they said he is afraid of getting burned and he gives himself that cushion.

dall-assblows · 11-13-2006, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Big C

that is not what greg williams said, or post game said. they said he is afraid of getting burned and he gives himself that cushion.

i think thats goes back to his first preseason game ever, when he was burn't twice by tj who'syourmama

jamf · 11-13-2006, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Rogers hasn't been struggling. Seriously. It's like people have that opinion, then they read it and have it themselves. REALLY, what causes anyone to think he's struggling. I think the cushion he gives is due to playcalling, not on his own.

On redskins postgame show, Brian Mitchell asked Greg Williams about the cushion and he said that it looked like carlos was worried about his footing and getting beat by Stallworth. GW said he was going to work on that will carlos this week.

But I agree with both of opinion, He is struggling and part of it is coaching. Too much cushion and too much zone. He needs to get on the line and bump WR's.
THere's no point in having big cornerbacks if we arent going to bump them at the line.

Crat92 · 11-13-2006, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jamf

On redskins postgame show, Brian Mitchell asked Greg Williams about the cushion and he said that it looked like carlos was worried about his footing and getting beat by Stallworth. GW said he was going to work on that will carlos this week.

But I agree with both of opinion, He is struggling and part of it is coaching. Too much cushion and too much zone. He needs to get on the line and bump WR's.
THere's no point in having big cornerbacks if we arent going to bump them at the line.

Finally! Someone hears me.

GTripp0012 · 11-13-2006, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

It's like people have that opinion, then they read it and have it themselves. REALLY, what causes anyone to think he's struggling. I think the cushion he gives is due to playcalling, not on his own.

You know what, I think I agree with you. Although, I must say your reasoning sounds famililar. :cheeky-sm

Rogers lacks top end speed and cover skills (explaining the cushion). But he has been the league's best tackling CB in the run game since he broke in (it's why GW took him in the top 10), and the importance of that cannot be understated. He will never be the best cover CB in the lineup, but you want him in the lineup for his run stuffing ability.

I think he needs to play smarter on third down and learn to take risks. But he will be our no. 2 corner for years to come and be good at it.

And he looked great against Philadelphia this week in man.

BigSKINBauer · 11-14-2006, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Rogers hasn't been struggling. Seriously. It's like people have that opinion, then they read it and have it themselves. REALLY, what causes anyone to think he's struggling. I think the cushion he gives is due to playcalling, not on his own.

regardless we will need a quality CB to take over for springs when he leaves.

TheMalcolmConnection · 11-14-2006, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BigSKINBauer

regardless we will need a quality CB to take over for springs when he leaves.

That's why I want Clements in FA and move Springs to safety.

That Guy · 11-14-2006, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

That's why I want Clements in FA and move Springs to safety.

springs is the best CB we have, and clements-springs-prioleau would still be better than clements-rogers-springs (imo).

and i'm down with getting more OL depth... we do have an option in todd wade on our roster, but he's not really a starting tackle, and even with jansen playing poorly, i'm not sure he'd be better. we do need a starter on the OL to either keep in reserve or possibly try as a starter at RT or LG, but that'd mean two expensive FA signings (two of CB, DE, OL + draft the other)...

i mean, during the offseason we were talking about CB and OL depth, mid-grade FA LBs, P, K, and DEs... at least WR is taken care of :/.

Citizens for 81 · 11-16-2006, 02:50 AM

I know its too early, but this mock draft might give everyone an opprotunity to scope out some of these players before the college season is over.

SportingNews.com - Pro Football War Room

In case this link doesn't work I've summerazied below:

1.) Joe Thomas T Wisconsin
2.) Brian Brohm QB Louisville
3.) Brady Quinn QB ND
4.) Frank Okam DT Texas
5.) Ted Ginn Jr WR OSU
6.) Justin Blalock G Texas
7.) Daymeion Hughes CB Cal
8.) Alan Branch DT Michigan
9.) Calvin Johnson WR GT
10.) Baraka Atkins DT Miami (Fla.)-----SN's skins prediction
11.) Zach Miller TE ASU
12.) Leon Hall CB Michigan
13.) Gaines Adams DE Clemson
14.) Kenny Irons RB Auburn
15.) Marcus McCauley CB Fresno St.
16.) Quentin Moss DE Georgia
17.) LaRon Landry S LSU
18.) Adrian Peterson RB Okla.
19.) Josh Beekman G Boston College
20.) Greg Olsen TE Miami (FL)
21.) Paul Posluszny OLB PSU
22.) Marcus Thomas DT Florida
23.) Brandon Meriweather S Miami(FL)
24.) Tony Franklin CB UVA
25.) Tanard Jackson CB Syracuse
26.) Patrick Willis ILB Ole Miss
27.) Aaron Rouse S VT
28.) Zackary Bowmam CB Neb.
29.) Tala Esera G Hawaii
30.) Victor Abiamiri DE ND
31.) Ryan Haris T ND
32.) Aaron Ross CB Texas

*The selections were based on the current standings

hooskins · 11-16-2006, 04:53 PM

Tony Franklin as the number two CB in the draft?!

I have seen him play for two years now, and I don't think he is good enough for the first round. Seems like this is a poor CB draft.

11-13-2006, 04:00 PM	#2
SkinsLove24/7 Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bowie, MD Age: 39 Posts: 423	Re: "with the first pick in the 2007 draft, the redskins select..." Why not use a first round pick to draft a cornerback. That is a problem that needs to be addressed with Springs only with a few more years and Rogers struggling recently. Josh Wilson of Maryland will be a stud in the NFL and another quality pick out of Maryland in the last few years.

11-13-2006, 04:02 PM	#4
dall-assblows The Starter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: round the way Age: 43 Posts: 2,211	Re: "with the first pick in the 2007 draft, the redskins select..." we can get a corner through FA. like that bufflo dude, i forget his name __________________ SOMEBODY PINCH ME

11-13-2006, 04:03 PM	#5
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: "with the first pick in the 2007 draft, the redskins select..." Rogers hasn't been struggling. Seriously. It's like people have that opinion, then they read it and have it themselves. REALLY, what causes anyone to think he's struggling. I think the cushion he gives is due to playcalling, not on his own. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

11-16-2006, 02:50 AM	#14
Citizens for 81 Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Age: 52 Posts: 410	Re: "with the first pick in the 2007 draft, the redskins select..." I know its too early, but this mock draft might give everyone an opprotunity to scope out some of these players before the college season is over. SportingNews.com - Pro Football War Room In case this link doesn't work I've summerazied below: 1.) Joe Thomas T Wisconsin 2.) Brian Brohm QB Louisville 3.) Brady Quinn QB ND 4.) Frank Okam DT Texas 5.) Ted Ginn Jr WR OSU 6.) Justin Blalock G Texas 7.) Daymeion Hughes CB Cal 8.) Alan Branch DT Michigan 9.) Calvin Johnson WR GT 10.) Baraka Atkins DT Miami (Fla.)-----SN's skins prediction 11.) Zach Miller TE ASU 12.) Leon Hall CB Michigan 13.) Gaines Adams DE Clemson 14.) Kenny Irons RB Auburn 15.) Marcus McCauley CB Fresno St. 16.) Quentin Moss DE Georgia 17.) LaRon Landry S LSU 18.) Adrian Peterson RB Okla. 19.) Josh Beekman G Boston College 20.) Greg Olsen TE Miami (FL) 21.) Paul Posluszny OLB PSU 22.) Marcus Thomas DT Florida 23.) Brandon Meriweather S Miami(FL) 24.) Tony Franklin CB UVA 25.) Tanard Jackson CB Syracuse 26.) Patrick Willis ILB Ole Miss 27.) Aaron Rouse S VT 28.) Zackary Bowmam CB Neb. 29.) Tala Esera G Hawaii 30.) Victor Abiamiri DE ND 31.) Ryan Haris T ND 32.) Aaron Ross CB Texas *The selections were based on the current standings

11-16-2006, 04:53 PM	#15
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 39 Posts: 8,606	Re: "with the first pick in the 2007 draft, the redskins select..." Tony Franklin as the number two CB in the draft?! I have seen him play for two years now, and I don't think he is good enough for the first round. Seems like this is a poor CB draft. __________________ Vacancy

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