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[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

It is referring to the offense. We had a running game, a passing game, and no turnovers. Now we have no CP, no MB, and an inexpierenced QB.

Thus uglyness. On both sides of the ball. Like the Phili game, except vs a team thats not nearly as good.

We had a passing game? The 22nd ranked passing game (13 of 16 in the NFC) that averaged 188 yards per game, and produced 8 TDs in 9 games and 1 TD in 4 NFC east games.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

We had a passing game? The 22nd ranked passing game (13 of 16 in the NFC) that averaged 188 yards per game, and produced 8 TDs in 9 games and 1 TD in 4 NFC east games.

Yeah, the stats also won't tell you that no team believed Brunell would ever make them pay for blitzing, because they knew the slightest amount of pressure got him really frazzled. Especially against Philly, NY, and Dallas, they could send someone extra in on nearly every play, and there was never going to be a threat of Brunell exploiting the secondary for it.

Also, did you notice how whenever the offense needed a big play, it was Randle El throwing it?

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Also, did you notice how whenever the offense needed a big play, it was Randle El throwing it?

That little guy has got a cannon of an arm.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

We had a passing game? The 22nd ranked passing game (13 of 16 in the NFC) that averaged 188 yards per game, and produced 8 TDs in 9 games and 1 TD in 4 NFC east games.

22nd by yards? Considering we throw less then anyone else, that doesn't mean much to me. Do it by Yards per Attempt. I can do it.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

22nd by yards? Considering we throw less then anyone else, that doesn't mean much to me. Do it by Yards per Attempt. I can do it.

Fine, forget yardage. How about scoring? All that matters is scoring and our offense was the unit that couldn't. In three away games against NFC East teams the Redskins scored a TOTAL of 9 points. Save the games against Jax and Hous, the offense averaged 12 points per game! If that's not bad, I don't know what is.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Fine, forget yardage. How about scoring? All that matters is scoring and our offense was the unit that couldn't. In three away games against NFC East teams the Redskins scored a TOTAL of 9 points. Save the games against Jax and Hous, the offense averaged 12 points per game! If that's not bad, I don't know what is.

Yeah, if you save the two best games, it's gonna be bad for pretty much anyone.

I really don't know why we fizzle in between the 40 and the 25 in opponents territory most of the time (costing us a shot at points). Must be Brunell's fault. That MUST be it. I don't know, so blame the QB.

It seems unrealistic to say that Brunell's play declines in that 15 yard span (where our unsucessful drives fizzle, we are really down on 3 + out). Since there is no good reason, would it be unreasonable to say that its just a matter of chance? Or is there a reason why we can't get drives into Field Goal range despite getting to the fringe all the time? Playcalling maybe, I'm not sure.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Yeah, if you save the two best games, it's gonna be bad for pretty much anyone.

I really don't know why we fizzle in between the 40 and the 25 in opponents territory most of the time (costing us a shot at points). Must be Brunell's fault. That MUST be it. I don't know, so blame the QB.

Okay, try to name 1 other good QB who has led an offense that has averaged 12 points in 7 of 9 games (taking away his two best games).

Besides those games against Jax, Dallas II, and Houston, when do you think Brunell played well? When do you think he didn't play well?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Okay, try to name 1 other good QB who has led an offense that has averaged 12 points in 7 of 9 games (taking away his two best games).

Besides those games against Jax, Dallas II, and Houston, when do you think Brunell played well? When do you think he didn't play well?

Jake Delhomme. Jake Plummer. Chad Pennington, maybe?

Indy and Minnesota he did pretty well. New York, I'd give him an N/A since he never had the football. Tennessee he was brilliant in the first half and horrible in the 2nd.

Dallas I, he was bad and Philadelphia, bad. Both those games were road games w/o Portis. Games he would have needed to be perfect to win. Was far less than perfect, yeah, but it happens from time to time.

[EternalEnigma21]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Jake Delhomme. Jake Plummer. Chad Pennington, maybe?

Indy and Minnesota he did pretty well. New York, I'd give him an N/A since he never had the football. Tennessee he was brilliant in the first half and horrible in the 2nd.

Dallas I, he was bad and Philadelphia, bad. Both those games were road games w/o Portis. Games he would have needed to be perfect to win. Was far less than perfect, yeah, but it happens from time to time.

I think its over, there dude...


I'd like to thank this opportunity to thank Mark Brunell (aka Gtripp0012) for his hard work and for fighting his guts out for us.

I appreciate the dramatic dallas win last year, as that is what I will always remember you for... and in a couple of short years I will stop talking about how you only watch 4 things when you have the ball (pass rush, santana, dumpoff valve, stands) in that order everytime, and at that point you will be that short guy that beat dallas by getting the ball to santana moss twice in 5 minutes....

Thanks...

me

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Jake Delhomme. Jake Plummer. Chad Pennington, maybe?

Indy and Minnesota he did pretty well. New York, I'd give him an N/A since he never had the football. Tennessee he was brilliant in the first half and horrible in the 2nd.

Dallas I, he was bad and Philadelphia, bad. Both those games were road games w/o Portis. Games he would have needed to be perfect to win. Was far less than perfect, yeah, but it happens from time to time.

1st - Neither Delhomme nor Pennington have averaged 12 points per game (taking away their 2 best games).

2nd - I said to name me a good QB who's averaged less than 12 points per game. Jake Plummer has been playing horribly this year. Are you are seriously saying that Plummer has been playing like a good QB?

3rd - You admit that Brunell played poorly against Dallas I and Philly. So you actually think he played well against the Giants? What about against the Titans, Vikings, and Colts?

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

22nd by yards? Considering we throw less then anyone else, that doesn't mean much to me. Do it by Yards per Attempt. I can do it.

let's see, if we pass less than anyone else, get any passing yards we do have from YAC, have 3 starting receivers (incl. Cooley) with less than 200yds, and our star running back was having a career low....yup must be a good offense.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by illdefined

let's see, if we pass less than anyone else, get any passing yards we do have from YAC, have 3 starting receivers (incl. Cooley) with less than 200yds, and our star running back was having a career low....yup must be a good offense.

Well since the efficiency ratings say it is, I have to dig deeper. Someone has to be right...the statistical rankings or illdefined.

Our star RB is injured. Our WRs have less than 200 yards...i dont know maybe because we pass less than anyone else. And we get yards after the catch? How HORRIBLE! Bench Brunell...oh wait.

Haven't even seen the efficiency ratings (certainly will take a hit after Sunday), but I already know who or what to believe.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Well since the efficiency ratings say it is, I have to dig deeper. Someone has to be right...the statistical rankings or illdefined.

Someone has to be right, the entire world (including Gibbs et al) or GTripp.

Sorry, I couldn't resist. But do you honestly believe that every ex-football player, coach, analyst, and fan is wrong about Brunell and is unfairly blaming him? I hate to cite football "experts" as support for my argument, but when every single one has called for Brunell's benching I must.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Well since the efficiency ratings say it is, I have to dig deeper. Someone has to be right...the statistical rankings or illdefined.

Our star RB is injured. Our WRs have less than 200 yards...i dont know maybe because we pass less than anyone else. And we get yards after the catch? How HORRIBLE! Bench Brunell...oh wait.

Haven't even seen the efficiency ratings (certainly will take a hit after Sunday), but I already know who or what to believe.

if everyone was getting YAC, Lloyd, Randle El and Cooley wouldn't be miserable with less than 200 yards.

here's an eye-opening experiment, take out Betts' YAC from your efficiency ratings and see whats left. HE'S the one you really should be jocking, not your boy.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by illdefined

if everyone was getting YAC, Lloyd, Randle El and Cooley wouldn't be miserable with less than 200 yards.

here's an eye-opening experiment, take out Betts' YAC from your efficiency ratings and see whats left. HE'S the one you really should be jocking, not your boy.

First of all they aren't my ratings. I don't make em up. Secondly, what are you saying? That because the opponent leaves RBs open and we exploit it...we suck?

Randle El and Lloyd have been worse than replacement this season (see earlier post, this thread) Cooley is having the worst season of his career, although he's picking it up of late.

And those stats I give attempt to eliminate the Brunell factor. So that isn't the issue. This arguement that Brunell has great weapons is off the mark. He has Moss (8+ DPAR/G). Period.

Here's a shocker, Moss is good. Betts is having a good year. TELL THE PEOPLES!!!

The one consistent factor keeping the offensive efficiency ratings up was Brunell, and he's gone so look for them to drop hard.

I could take out all the good plays and leave the bad if I wanted to, but that wouldn't tell me anything. What are you trying to say?