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Old 11-13-2006, 10:40 PM   #1
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22nd by yards? Considering we throw less then anyone else, that doesn't mean much to me. Do it by Yards per Attempt. I can do it.
let's see, if we pass less than anyone else, get any passing yards we do have from YAC, have 3 starting receivers (incl. Cooley) with less than 200yds, and our star running back was having a career low....yup must be a good offense.
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let's see, if we pass less than anyone else, get any passing yards we do have from YAC, have 3 starting receivers (incl. Cooley) with less than 200yds, and our star running back was having a career low....yup must be a good offense.
Well since the efficiency ratings say it is, I have to dig deeper. Someone has to be right...the statistical rankings or illdefined.

Our star RB is injured. Our WRs have less than 200 yards...i dont know maybe because we pass less than anyone else. And we get yards after the catch? How HORRIBLE! Bench Brunell...oh wait.

Haven't even seen the efficiency ratings (certainly will take a hit after Sunday), but I already know who or what to believe.
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Old 11-13-2006, 11:02 PM   #3
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Well since the efficiency ratings say it is, I have to dig deeper. Someone has to be right...the statistical rankings or illdefined.
Someone has to be right, the entire world (including Gibbs et al) or GTripp.

Sorry, I couldn't resist. But do you honestly believe that every ex-football player, coach, analyst, and fan is wrong about Brunell and is unfairly blaming him? I hate to cite football "experts" as support for my argument, but when every single one has called for Brunell's benching I must.
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Well since the efficiency ratings say it is, I have to dig deeper. Someone has to be right...the statistical rankings or illdefined.

Our star RB is injured. Our WRs have less than 200 yards...i dont know maybe because we pass less than anyone else. And we get yards after the catch? How HORRIBLE! Bench Brunell...oh wait.

Haven't even seen the efficiency ratings (certainly will take a hit after Sunday), but I already know who or what to believe.
if everyone was getting YAC, Lloyd, Randle El and Cooley wouldn't be miserable with less than 200 yards.

here's an eye-opening experiment, take out Betts' YAC from your efficiency ratings and see whats left. HE'S the one you really should be jocking, not your boy.
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Old 11-13-2006, 11:25 PM   #5
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if everyone was getting YAC, Lloyd, Randle El and Cooley wouldn't be miserable with less than 200 yards.

here's an eye-opening experiment, take out Betts' YAC from your efficiency ratings and see whats left. HE'S the one you really should be jocking, not your boy.
First of all they aren't my ratings. I don't make em up. Secondly, what are you saying? That because the opponent leaves RBs open and we exploit it...we suck?

Randle El and Lloyd have been worse than replacement this season (see earlier post, this thread) Cooley is having the worst season of his career, although he's picking it up of late.

And those stats I give attempt to eliminate the Brunell factor. So that isn't the issue. This arguement that Brunell has great weapons is off the mark. He has Moss (8+ DPAR/G). Period.

Here's a shocker, Moss is good. Betts is having a good year. TELL THE PEOPLES!!!

The one consistent factor keeping the offensive efficiency ratings up was Brunell, and he's gone so look for them to drop hard.

I could take out all the good plays and leave the bad if I wanted to, but that wouldn't tell me anything. What are you trying to say?
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Old 11-13-2006, 11:58 PM   #6
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First of all they aren't my ratings. I don't make em up. Secondly, what are you saying? That because the opponent leaves RBs open and we exploit it...we suck?
Yeah, that's the general idea. Betts was the leading receiver in terms of receptions in the Indianapolis game, and this week at Philly. That says Brunell doesn't have the confidence to get the ball to his downfield receivers, that he panics at the slightest hint of a blitz, and purges the ball to his outlet receiver, (usually Betts) long before plays are allowed to develop. Not only that, opponents can blitz at will, knowing that Brunell will NEVER make them pay for it.

Now GTripp, I understand you're carrying the water for Brunell, going to obscure websites looking for convoluted statistics that somehow say Brunell is actually deserving of the league MVP in 2006 -- but what exactly is it you think the team should do with Brunell? In terms of leading the offense productively, effectively, and giving us scoring drives, what does the 3-6 record tell you that everybody else seems to miss?
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Old 11-14-2006, 12:02 AM   #7
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First of all they aren't my ratings. I don't make em up. Secondly, what are you saying? That because the opponent leaves RBs open and we exploit it...we suck?

Randle El and Lloyd have been worse than replacement this season (see earlier post, this thread) Cooley is having the worst season of his career, although he's picking it up of late.

And those stats I give attempt to eliminate the Brunell factor. So that isn't the issue. This arguement that Brunell has great weapons is off the mark. He has Moss (8+ DPAR/G). Period.

Here's a shocker, Moss is good. Betts is having a good year. TELL THE PEOPLES!!!

The one consistent factor keeping the offensive efficiency ratings up was Brunell, and he's gone so look for them to drop hard.

I could take out all the good plays and leave the bad if I wanted to, but that wouldn't tell me anything. What are you trying to say?
no you don't make those ratings up, but you're seriously the only one on this planet who gives a f*** about them. i bet even the people who run the website you get those stats from all agree it was time for Campbell. how the hell can you get rid of the QB factor on whether a receiver is doing well or not? how can they do well if they haven't been getting the ball?

Betts has been racking up garbage free yards given to him by umbrella defenses on hopeless 3rd and longs all season. i'm serious, you should see how much of these ratings are based on Betts' 'production'. you'll be surprised on how much he's responsible for all the offensive 'success'. HE'S your real stat blimping hero.
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how the hell can you get rid of the QB factor on whether a receiver is doing well or not?
I have no friggin idea.
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