At what point would a skins fan be justified in calling for Gibbs' resignation?

[SmootSmack]

I'll be called a "yes man" for sure, but I really believe there are some people who have the right-however frustrating it may be for people-to decide when they want to leave. Dean Smith, Bobby Cox, Greg Popovich, Bobby Bowden, Joe Gibbs, to name a few.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I'll be called a "yes man" for sure, but I really believe there are some people who have the right-however frustrating it may be for people-to decide when they want to leave. Dean Smith, Bobby Cox, Greg Popovich, Bobby Bowden, Joe Gibbs, to name a few.

Mark me down as a yes man too.

It goes beyond Gibbs though for me, I'm just tired of coaching changes. Gibbs can have his 5 years before I'll make my ultimate judgement on his 2nd stint.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I'll be called a "yes man" for sure, but I really believe there are some people who have the right-however frustrating it may be for people-to decide when they want to leave. Dean Smith, Bobby Cox, Greg Popovich, Bobby Bowden, Joe Gibbs, to name a few.

This is what I would said. He is a legend. Our legend. The man has worked his butt off through two stints to win games for us. The first time got it done and I still believe he can get it done this time. I'd expect him to resign before I could ever admit that he needed to go. I can't even fathom what it would take for me to think that he can't make this work. I don't think it is blind optimism but actually faith based on results. What everyone wants to believe is that we won every game we ever played under Gibbs the first time around. Well guess what, we didn't. We had plenty of 9-7/10-6 years and had plenty of big losses. The league is even more competitive now and when he came here I think we can honestly admit that we were on the low side in terms of talent. There have been missteps for sure but I think the biggest misstep he made was allowing everyone to believe we were better than we were. Now he looks bad and everyone is pissed. But what exactly has he done that has hurt this team? Can anyone say this team is worse off now than when he came? I don't if it is but I haven't heard anyone say he has done a bad job. Just that he hasn't done all the right things. To me he has plenty of leash. He earned it.

[hurrykaine]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

This is what I would said. He is a legend. Our legend. The man has worked his butt off through two stints to win games for us. The first time got it done and I still believe he can get it done this time. I'd expect him to resign before I could ever admit that he needed to go. I can't even fathom what it would take for me to think that he can't make this work. I don't think it is blind optimism but actually faith based on results. What everyone wants to believe is that we won every game we ever played under Gibbs the first time around. Well guess what, we didn't. We had plenty of 9-7/10-6 years and had plenty of big losses. The league is even more competitive now and when he came here I think we can honestly admit that we were on the low side in terms of talent. There have been missteps for sure but I think the biggest misstep he made was allowing everyone to believe we were better than we were. Now he looks bad and everyone is pissed. But what exactly has he done that has hurt this team? Can anyone say this team is worse off now than when he came? I don't if it is but I haven't heard anyone say he has done a bad job. Just that he hasn't done all the right things. To me he has plenty of leash. He earned it.

Good post..We did have those 9-7 & 10-6 yrs under Gibbs v1, however, we were always competitive. How many 6-10 years did we have? How many losses to bad non-division teams such as the current Clevelands, Oaklands, Tennessees etc under Gibbs v1? How many games where the offense has failed to score a TD before garbage time?

I'm perfectly willing to admit the fault isn't with Gibbs. Maybe its his supporting cast of coaches on offense - Breaux, Bugel, Burns, etc. that are over the hill. But Gibbs did bring in his personal entourage. And Brunell. And if Campbell doesn't pan out, Gibbs will also be responsible for erring on that front.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I'll be called a "yes man" for sure, but I really believe there are some people who have the right-however frustrating it may be for people-to decide when they want to leave. Dean Smith, Bobby Cox, Greg Popovich, Bobby Bowden, Joe Gibbs, to name a few.

I agree. Has Joe Gibbs not earned the right to leave at his own desire? Remember, we feel like he's made some mistakes this season right now, but in 365 days, he could be once again looking like the genius that he is. I prefer to reserve judgement on how well he's done this year until after its apparent whether or not his decisions have been right or wrong ones.