At what point would a skins fan be justified in calling for Gibbs' resignation?

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I don't think it's a disgrace that this thread was started, it's a very legit question. Fact of the matter is, if Joe Gibbs' name was...oh, Nick Saban or Mike Tice, or Herm Edwards....this would the put up or shut up year.

It's funny that when Gibbs returned one of the very first things to come out of his mouth was that the past doesn't really buy you much. I do think he's running on borrowed time and reputation here.

That being said, I think he needs to stay and ride out the bumps. Not because he's Joe Gibbs, but for the sake of avoiding another coaching upheaval.

You are entitled to your own opinion. Fact is those guys bascially are unproven, Joe is???????? Redskins are who without him? Working on Spurrier 2, or 3? Has there been mistakes made? Without a doubt. What do you judge the tunaround time for LONGTIME losing franchises to be? Do you think he has delivered success's of note in his Joe2 tenure? Sweeping Cboys, playoffs??? These sound familiar?

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Hog1

You are entitled to your own opinion. Fact is those guys bascially are unproven, Joe is???????? Redskins are who without him? Working on Spurrier 2, or 3? Has there been mistakes made? Without a doubt. What do you judge the tunaround time for LONGTIME losing franchises to be? Do you think he has delivered success's of note in his Joe2 tenure? Sweeping Cboys, playoffs??? These sound familiar?

True. I just threw out those names as examples, not really to compare them to Gibbs' success. I mean, who else has an active winning percentage better than Gibbs...maybe Bellichek?

Funny you threw out Spurrier? I think had we kept either Marty Shott...or maybe held on to Marvin Lewis long enough to make him head coach, it's possible we're not even discussing Gibbs.

[memphisskin]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

True. I just threw out those names as examples, not really to compare them to Gibbs' success. I mean, who else has an active winning percentage better than Gibbs...maybe Bellichek?

Funny you threw out Spurrier? I think had we kept either Marty Shott...or maybe held on to Marvin Lewis long enough to make him head coach, it's possible we're not even discussing Gibbs.

Dungy is the only active coach with a better winning percentage. If not for the wild success we had over the last five games there would have been no Super Bowl expectations. Think back over the past five years, what other coach brought that level of hope? Not saying that another coach couldn't, but I am saying that no other coach did it here. Turner, Schottenheimer and Spurrier were brought here to give the fan base hope.

There are no quick fixes, no dream free agents or draft picks who are going to come to Redskin Park and turn the skins around. Gibbs has a plan, he's won before, and I think he'll win it all again here in DC.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by memphisskin

Dungy is the only active coach with a better winning percentage. If not for the wild success we had over the last five games there would have been no Super Bowl expectations. Think back over the past five years, what other coach brought that level of hope? Not saying that another coach couldn't, but I am saying that no other coach did it here. Turner, Schottenheimer and Spurrier were brought here to give the fan base hope.

There are no quick fixes, no dream free agents or draft picks who are going to come to Redskin Park and turn the skins around. Gibbs has a plan, he's won before, and I think he'll win it all again here in DC.

Thanks, I forgot about Dungy. You are right, there are no quick fixes, however, Joe Gibbs has next year and the one after to do whatever he's going to do.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

True. I just threw out those names as examples, not really to compare them to Gibbs' success. I mean, who else has an active winning percentage better than Gibbs...maybe Bellichek?

Funny you threw out Spurrier? I think had we kept either Marty Shott...or maybe held on to Marvin Lewis long enough to make him head coach, it's possible we're not even discussing Gibbs.

It is true Marty has done a good job after he left. At the time, I personally was not to excited at the prospect of "Marty ball". Like Texas A & M. 3 yards and a cloud of dust. (or whatever)