Who Are Jason Campbell's Friends???

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

chemistry - everyone HATES Saunders.

Says who? In preseason/training camp LLoyd, Moss, Portis all said things that indicated to me that they couldn't wait to run the stuff and several players commented on his energy level and how invigorating it was - (save for Brunell who never seemed comfortable with the new offense).

What's your source? I haven't seen even a rumour that the players were displeased with Al. There has been commentary from the talking heads about his "700 page playbook", but where are you getting your player discontent theory?

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Says who? In preseason/training camp LLoyd, Moss, Portis all said things that indicated to me that they couldn't wait to run the stuff and several players commented on his energy level and how invigorating it was - (save for Brunell who never seemed comfortable with the new offense).

What's your source? I haven't seen even a rumour that the players were displeased with Al. There has been commentary from the talking heads about his "700 page playbook", but where are you getting your player discontent theory?

he's a backbiter. he bashed brunell publicly, and basically said campbell was too stupid to run his offense, he called out portis, he hasn't made any significant adjustment to adjust his scheme to the talent, and he hasn't use what worked last year (shotgun, audibles, etc). He also complained about the mis-use of preseason, but that's a legit gripe.

brunell said he had no idea why they'd bring in a new offensive scheme for a 36 year old QB when the old one worked well and he already knew it.

the WRs were enamored by the potential of the scheme, but everyone seems to think the greatest show on turf was saunders creation, which is very very (VERY) wrong. he was the WR coach and he was working with faulk, holt, and bruce. mike martz is responsible for that, and vermeil too. saunder may or may not have helped, but he wasn't the guy in charge or even the #2.

anyways, i'm kinda anti-saunders, cause i'd rather hear a guy step up and be responsible when things aren't going well, instead of blaming everyone else for his own (possible) failings.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by That Guy

he's a backbiter. he bashed brunell publicly, and basically said campbell was too stupid to run his offense, he called out portis, he hasn't made any significant adjustment to adjust his scheme to the talent, and he hasn't use what worked last year (shotgun, audibles, etc). He also complained about the mis-use of preseason, but that's a legit gripe.

brunell said he had no idea why they'd bring in a new offensive scheme for a 36 year old QB when the old one worked well and he already knew it.

the WRs were enamored by the potential of the scheme, but everyone seems to think the greatest show on turf was saunders creation, which is very very (VERY) wrong. he was the WR coach and he was working with faulk, holt, and bruce. mike martz is responsible for that, and vermeil too. saunder may or may not have helped, but he wasn't the guy in charge or even the #2.

anyways, i'm kinda anti-saunders, cause i'd rather hear a guy step up and be responsible when things aren't going well, instead of blaming everyone else for his own (possible) failings.

I have heard the backbiter stuff before but the rest of it is news to me. Where are you hearing this? As for the public bashing of Brunell, when did this happen?

Not saying that it didn't, I just like looking at the first hand sources.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I have heard the backbiter stuff before but the rest of it is news to me. Where are you hearing this? As for the public bashing of Brunell, when did this happen?

Not saying that it didn't, I just like looking at the first hand sources.

from his mouth, mainly in post game interviews. and it's not like he came out and said "brunell sucks" but talking about how he didn't know what brunell can't do and limiting what he can call, and that he couldn't use his QB. the campbell stuff was during a prime time game (skins-vikings) after player introduction, his head popped up and he was asked what he thought about campbell (again, on national tv, a pre-recorded interview playing during the game), and instead of coach-speak about how he's big and strong and fast and has a good future, he only talks about how he hasn't grasped the offense (which both TK and wilbon recapped on PTI and agreed) that he made it sound like campbell was too stupid to run his scheme.