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Old 11-30-2006, 12:40 PM   #1
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Re: Beatdown Galore

There's a lot of messed up stuff going on in Iraq on all sides, yet the left only talks about American atrocities and the right only talks about what the Iraqis and foreign insurgents are doing. It's dumb. War sucks and all sides do things that we should loathe. But on the whole, if you want to talk about malicious and evil acts, I think the insurgents have got us beat hands down.

Should I start posting vids of the insurgents beheading people, kidnapping and torturing (not the Gitmo style torturing, but some serious sh-t) people, blowing up U.S. troops as they hand out candy to kids (yes they killed a bunch of troops handing out candy to kids as well as the kids), or killing people just because they belong to the wrong religious sect?

I find it ironic that the far left constantly talks about humanitarian crises and disasters (e.g. Sudan), yet wants us to withdraw from Iraq immediately. What do they think will happen if we withdraw from Iraq? There IS a civil war in Iraq right now, but it's only going to get worse if we leave. Meanwhile, the right could care less about humanitarian crises, yet is using humanitarian concerns, in part, to justify staying in Iraq. Both sides are full of it.

But, do we really need to get into all of this? I think this issue is going to sharply divide a lot of people.
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Old 11-30-2006, 01:23 PM   #2
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Re: Beatdown Galore

Again, I don't see this going anywhere positive.
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Old 11-30-2006, 01:27 PM   #3
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Again, I don't see this going anywhere positive.
In all honesty SGG, I'm not sure it's "hoyle" to post your point of view(although I probably agree with most of it), and then suggest the subject matter is out of bounds?
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Old 11-30-2006, 01:48 PM   #4
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In all honesty SGG, I'm not sure it's "hoyle" to post your point of view(although I probably agree with most of it), and then suggest the subject matter is out of bounds?
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Yeah, you're right. I guess I couldn't resist posting my opinion.

I don't actually oppose the discussion of politics here (at least in theory). What I don't like to see are personal attacks which these kinds of threads usually lead to.
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Old 11-30-2006, 01:56 PM   #5
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Yeah, you're right. I guess I couldn't resist posting my opinion.

I don't actually oppose the discussion of politics here (at least in theory). What I don't like to see are personal attacks which these kinds of threads usually lead to.
Yeah... I sort of have taken a conservative approach to these poltical threads. When it appears some elevated discourse may take place... then its all good. I'll post away.

However, Alot of posters on here can't even talk about a football team w/ out getting emotional, much less discuss something meaningful and potentially nerve racking such as politics.

Someones toes are always stepped on, so I tread cautiously through this kind of stuff.
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Old 11-30-2006, 02:03 PM   #6
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Yeah, you're right. I guess I couldn't resist posting my opinion.

I don't actually oppose the discussion of politics here (at least in theory). What I don't like to see are personal attacks which these kinds of threads usually lead to.
As you said, it is indeed a provocative issue
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Again, I don't see this going anywhere positive.
Very true.

It's unfortunate that so many people are incapable of having a constructive political / philosophical debate with resorting to name calling and profanity.
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Re: Beatdown Galore

If kids want to throw rocks, they have to be ready for a beatdown in return.

Here in the states, you throw rocks at someone, and the police catch you, you get charged with assault. If you throw rocks at someone and the police are not around, a lot of people will try to kick your ass.

I don't see anything wrong here. They threw rocks, they took a beating. Big deal. They'll live.
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Actually, I thought the discussion regarding a very volatile issue had proceeded rather civilly to this point
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Agreed. My only point is that these things usually don't proceed with civility for long.
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Old 11-30-2006, 03:29 PM   #11
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Agreed. My only point is that these things usually don't proceed with civility for long.
Your correct, it's still early
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Re: Beatdown Galore

I concur. If any other mod disagrees, please re-open it.
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Old 11-30-2006, 04:59 PM   #13
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Should have closed this a long time ago. Furthermore, let's not post any more war related stories, videos, etc. Unfortunately, we have demonstrated twice in the past week that as a whole we are incapable of discussing such politically charged topics without resorting to name calling.

Let's save the name calling for topics like Who's a Worse FA Signing-Patten or Archuleta?

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