Im done....Gibbs must go.

[mason4415]

Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

And look at what coaches in New Orleans and the NY Jets have done in 1 year. Look at what Nolan has done in SF in 2 years. All of them started with less talent than Gibbs. It would be one thing if we had young talent waiting in the wings, but we don't. The man has squandered 3 drafts and made lousy free agency moves to get us to this pathetic record. Its easy to keep riding the "I have faith in Gibbs train" but you would never ever cut any other coach this much slack. So if you have so much faith, prove to me that he has this franchise moving in the right direction after 3 years.

omg, i am so glad that there is at least one rational, non-biased opinion on this site!

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mason4415

omg, i am so glad that there is at least one rational, non-biased opinion on this site!

LOL yeah there's only two, thank god you guys found each other.

[mason4415]

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

This thread is garbage.

Criticizing Gibbs is fine, I do it too. But I can't fathom how a Redskins fan, especially one for 20 years, would ever want Gibbs to go.

I mean before Gibbs came back the big talk at the Warpath was whether we'd get Fassel or Dennis Green for chrst sake. Is your memory that short?

Look at last year's SB coaches. It took the great Bill Cowher 4 years to reach a Super Bowl and 14 years to finally win one. It took Holmgren 7 years to reach the SB with the Seahawks and he still hasn't won one. Even Norv Turner lasted 7 years here. And now some of you guys wanna throw Gibbs under the bus after 3 years?

Gibbs has tried to do everything to win now as well as set up the franchise for the future. He brought in top coaches who could take over the reigns down the road. He drafted a young QB for the future even though we already had 2 QBs on the roster. I mean what do you want from the guy? I find some of your attitudes towards Gibbs to be somewhere between disrespectful and blasphemous.

The day Gibbs came back was one of the happiest days of my life. And the day he decides to leave will be one of the saddest. I thank god and count my lucky stars every single day that he is at the helm, and so should you.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and here's mine:

To all the fickle, ungrateful fans who want Gibbs to go, I say this - be very careful what you wish for.

so what you're saying is that we're content with being the Arizona Cardinals of the East. that's a shame!

[CrazyCanuck]

Originally Posted by mason4415

so what you're saying is that we're content with being the Arizona Cardinals of the East. that's a shame!

When's the last time the Cardinals were one game away from the NFC Championship? We were there just last year.

I'm not happy with this season either. But there's no one I'd rather have to try and turn things around than Joe Gibbs.

If some of you guys had your way, we'd dump Gibbs and pick up the soon-to-be-dumped Dennis Green. Then we'd really be the Arizona Cardinals of the East.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

When's the last time the Cardinals were one game away from the NFC Championship? We were there just last year.

I agree with you on your Gibbs points and I think the guy who called us the Arizona Cards of the East is overexaggerating. But I just want to point out to be fair that 25% of NFL teams get within a game of the Conference Championship every year. 25% of the NFC gets within a game of the NFC championship every year.

So while I think Gibbs should be commened for the job he did with the offense and turning the season around last year, but getting within one game of the conference championship isnt THAT great of an accomplishment.

[mason4415]

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

This thread is garbage.

Criticizing Gibbs is fine, I do it too. But I can't fathom how a Redskins fan, especially one for 20 years, would ever want Gibbs to go.

I mean before Gibbs came back the big talk at the Warpath was whether we'd get Fassel or Dennis Green for chrst sake. Is your memory that short?

Look at last year's SB coaches. It took the great Bill Cowher 4 years to reach a Super Bowl and 14 years to finally win one. It took Holmgren 7 years to reach the SB with the Seahawks and he still hasn't won one. Even Norv Turner lasted 7 years here. And now some of you guys wanna throw Gibbs under the bus after 3 years?

Gibbs has tried to do everything to win now as well as set up the franchise for the future. He brought in top coaches who could take over the reigns down the road. He drafted a young QB for the future even though we already had 2 QBs on the roster. I mean what do you want from the guy? I find some of your attitudes towards Gibbs to be somewhere between disrespectful and blasphemous.

The day Gibbs came back was one of the happiest days of my life. And the day he decides to leave will be one of the saddest. I thank god and count my lucky stars every single day that he is at the helm, and so should you.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and here's mine:

To all the fickle, ungrateful fans who want Gibbs to go, I say this - be very careful what you wish for.

"Be careful what we wish for"???? Are you kidding me?

HOW COULD IT BE ANY WORSE?! WE ARE 4-8! And 20-28 over the last 3 years. And we have the most talent we have had since the early '90's!

[ArtMonkDrillz]

I know it's tough, but just pretend these are two different people:

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

I know it's tough, but just pretend these are two different people:

Now pretend he's white...

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

Now pretend he's white...

I was totally not expecting that. Sir, you truly are a master. LMFAO.

AS for what you said Matty

Year 3 has been a mess but I'd prefer to see him attempt to get this turned around rather than starting over at square one with a new staff.

I agree, mainly because of Campbell's learning process. However, as I said before, I think we'd be okay if Gibbs left for the FO full time, Williams went away, and we brought in a new head coach who's defensive minded and let Saunders have control of the offense, I think we'd be okay.
I really do think we need someone a little tougher (like Gibbs 1.0) because this team lacks discipline. I'm not saying we need Tom Coughlin, who will probably be out of a job, but someone who won't to have a cupcake training camp or stand for a ton of bonehead penalties during every game.

If Gibbs can do those things then that's awesome and I'd love to have him back. But if he as even the slighest doubt about it I hope he goes.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

I was totally not expecting that. Sir, you truly are a master. LMFAO.

AS for what you said Matty
I agree, mainly because of Campbell's learning process. However, as I said before, I think we'd be okay if Gibbs left for the FO full time, Williams went away, and we brought in a new head coach who's defensive minded and let Saunders have control of the offense, I think we'd be okay.
I really do think we need someone a little tougher (like Gibbs 1.0) because this team lacks discipline. I'm not saying we need Tom Coughlin, who will probably be out of a job, but someone who won't to have a cupcake training camp or stand for a ton of bonehead penalties during every game.

If Gibbs can do those things then that's awesome and I'd love to have him back. But if he as even the slighest doubt about it I hope he goes.

A new coach = a new staff and that means if Gibbs goes everyone probably goes including Saunders.

You can't bring in a new coach and hand him a staff or coordinator, just doesn't work that way.

We either plow forward with what we've got or start over, there's no inbetween.

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

I was totally not expecting that. Sir, you truly are a master. LMFAO.

Just trying to keep it light. Mondays are such an emotional drain on me, especially after a loss.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

I know it's tough, but just pretend these are two different people:

In all seriousness Drillz, at this stage, are you trying to make a point or just antagonize?

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by Hog1

In all seriousness Drillz, at this stage, are you trying to make a point or just antagonize?

I'm 100% serious, which is why I've posted about 50 times today. I honestly think a lot of people have a really hard time seperating the two. Gibbs seems to get a free pass because people here see him as a saint. You've got to be relative about the job that he's doing here.
Maybe I went about showing it in an overly dramatic way, but that's besides the point.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

I know it's tough, but just pretend these are two different people:

LOL!!!!!! One was operating with a gm. The other is the head coach/gm/president.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

LOL!!!!!! One was operating with a gm. The other is the head coach/gm/president.

Good point. It's like we tried to bring back everything that made us such a powerhouse in the 80's except a great GM.