Im done....Gibbs must go.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Man this thead is still active?

Once again for the love of God: Gibbs isn't going anywhere

Just get over it already. People have been (excuse my french) bitching about this since the Redskins started sucking this season. Lets see the whiners get in there and do a better job. Once you do, I'll agree Gibbs needs to take his walking papers. God, its like if you don't get to the playoffs every year then something must be wrong with: The front office, the coaches, the players, God himself. And that means we should fire everyone and start all over again because there are SO many better coaches out there besides Joe Gibbs, right? The players on the otherhand, I could see some cuts and some new faces, but what happened to the whole, "stick with what you know" approach? Just because you go to the playoffs one year, doesn't mean that all of a sudden, you're supposed the new Colts and everything is just supposed to gel. And you're supposed to go 16-0 and beat on everyone in your division and go to the Superbowl. Especially when half of last year's squad is gone!

Granted, everyone had high hopes considering the new faces and high played players brought in here, and I believe everyones disappointed, but disappointed enough to wanna fire a Hall of Fame coach? Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

I hate it as much as everyone does when the Skins look like a bunch of pop warner football players running around like chickens with their heads cut off but damned if the so called "diehard" fans aren't the first to jump off the bandwagon when things go sour.

People are just like sheep. Poor helpless sheep that need to be put down.

you are so cool

[mason4415]

Originally Posted by hooskins

you are so cool

i don't think you understand how to be a "diehard" fan. having blind faith in your team doesn't equate to being a die hard fan. cheering them when they are 4-8 doesn't equate to being a die hard fan.

demanding playoff appearances (more than 2 per 14 years), accountability, and being realistic is being a much better fan than you so-called "die-hard" fans. i should know. i am right here in the heart of "steeler-country". trust me, they could have jesus himself running the team. if they are 4-8, they are calling for his head!

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

People are just like sheep. Poor helpless sheep that need to be put down.

So you're not? You're not just following everyone else? You think this team is going to get better based on blind faith, but you're somehow different than people how look at this team going down the crapper and worry?

And I really don't think any of us that don't have much faith don't still love this team. Likewise, I'd be thrilled if Gibbs could turn it all around. I'd be suprised, but I'd be happy.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

So you're not? You're not just following everyone else? You think this team is going to get better based on blind faith, but you're somehow different than people how look at this team going down the crapper and worry?

And I really don't think any of us that don't have much faith don't still love this team. Likewise, I'd be thrilled if Gibbs could turn it all around. I'd be suprised, but I'd be happy.

Blind faith is a redundant phrase. All faith is blind, considering faith is based on the beliefs of things unseen. With a man who has been more than successful coaching in this league and has championships to prove it, and can go to another sport and put together a championship team there as well, it's really not so strange why people would be patient with Gibbs. Oh, and don't give me the same tired "the game has changed since he coached in the 80's"....nothing has dramatically changed so much that a coaching mind like Joe Gibbs can't adjust to. If anything that has changed is been the attitudes of the players. It's became too much of a "me" type of game...nobody has loyality or patience to stick it out with one team anymore. In my opinion, it is tougher for guys like Gibbs to coach up good teams....NOT because of the game, but because of the players.

[paulskinsfan]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Blind faith is a redundant phrase. All faith is blind, considering faith is based on the beliefs of things unseen. With a man who has been more than successful coaching in this league and has championships to prove it, and can go to another sport and put together a championship team there as well, it's really not so strange why people would be patient with Gibbs. Oh, and don't give me the same tired "the game has changed since he coached in the 80's"....nothing has dramatically changed so much that a coaching mind like Joe Gibbs can't adjust to. If anything that has changed is been the attitudes of the players. It's became too much of a "me" type of game...nobody has loyality or patience to stick it out with one team anymore. In my opinion, it is tougher for guys like Gibbs to coach up good teams....NOT because of the game, but because of the players.

So its the players, not the coach. One question, who ultimately selected these players? And two, under your philosophy a head coach should never ever be fired, because its not the coach, its the players. Oh yeah, by the way, Gibbs won 3 superbowls with a qualified GM, not with him and Vinny coming up with a "Redskin Score."

[mason4415]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Blind faith is a redundant phrase. All faith is blind, considering faith is based on the beliefs of things unseen. With a man who has been more than successful coaching in this league and has championships to prove it, and can go to another sport and put together a championship team there as well, it's really not so strange why people would be patient with Gibbs. Oh, and don't give me the same tired "the game has changed since he coached in the 80's"....nothing has dramatically changed so much that a coaching mind like Joe Gibbs can't adjust to. If anything that has changed is been the attitudes of the players. It's became too much of a "me" type of game...nobody has loyality or patience to stick it out with one team anymore. In my opinion, it is tougher for guys like Gibbs to coach up good teams....NOT because of the game, but because of the players.

if you don't think the game has changed at all since the '80's, then you must be blind yourself!

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Man this thead is still active?

Once again for the love of God: Gibbs isn't going anywhere

Just get over it already. People have been (excuse my french) bitching about this since the Redskins started sucking this season. Lets see the whiners get in there and do a better job. Once you do, I'll agree Gibbs needs to take his walking papers. God, its like if you don't get to the playoffs every year then something must be wrong with: The front office, the coaches, the players, God himself. And that means we should fire everyone and start all over again because there are SO many better coaches out there besides Joe Gibbs, right? The players on the otherhand, I could see some cuts and some new faces, but what happened to the whole, "stick with what you know" approach? Just because you go to the playoffs one year, doesn't mean that all of a sudden, you're supposed the new Colts and everything is just supposed to gel. And you're supposed to go 16-0 and beat on everyone in your division and go to the Superbowl. Especially when half of last year's squad is gone!

Granted, everyone had high hopes considering the new faces and high played players brought in here, and I believe everyones disappointed, but disappointed enough to wanna fire a Hall of Fame coach? Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

I hate it as much as everyone does when the Skins look like a bunch of pop warner football players running around like chickens with their heads cut off but damned if the so called "diehard" fans aren't the first to jump off the bandwagon when things go sour.

People are just like sheep. Poor helpless sheep that need to be put down.

Yes yes!!!! I'm with you man!

[paulskinsfan]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Man this thead is still active?

Once again for the love of God: Gibbs isn't going anywhere

Just get over it already. People have been (excuse my french) bitching about this since the Redskins started sucking this season. Lets see the whiners get in there and do a better job. Once you do, I'll agree Gibbs needs to take his walking papers. God, its like if you don't get to the playoffs every year then something must be wrong with: The front office, the coaches, the players, God himself. And that means we should fire everyone and start all over again because there are SO many better coaches out there besides Joe Gibbs, right? The players on the otherhand, I could see some cuts and some new faces, but what happened to the whole, "stick with what you know" approach? Just because you go to the playoffs one year, doesn't mean that all of a sudden, you're supposed the new Colts and everything is just supposed to gel. And you're supposed to go 16-0 and beat on everyone in your division and go to the Superbowl. Especially when half of last year's squad is gone!

Granted, everyone had high hopes considering the new faces and high played players brought in here, and I believe everyones disappointed, but disappointed enough to wanna fire a Hall of Fame coach? Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

I hate it as much as everyone does when the Skins look like a bunch of pop warner football players running around like chickens with their heads cut off but damned if the so called "diehard" fans aren't the first to jump off the bandwagon when things go sour.

People are just like sheep. Poor helpless sheep that need to be put down.

So, the few of us (yes Matt I said few as your poll does indicate that) who have the balls to call for the resignation of a Hall of Fame Coach are "sheep" even though we support our argument with facts, while you who continue to blindly follow the Hall of Fame coach and give him a "lifetime pass" are the better fans? That is some interesting logic. Do you think we like what the state of the team is? Do you think we enjoy tuning in each and every week to watch this team lose? The sheep are those that never question the logic and the decision making even though the slaughterhouse is dead ahead.

[mason4415]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Man this thead is still active?

Once again for the love of God: Gibbs isn't going anywhere

Just get over it already. People have been (excuse my french) bitching about this since the Redskins started sucking this season. Lets see the whiners get in there and do a better job. Once you do, I'll agree Gibbs needs to take his walking papers. God, its like if you don't get to the playoffs every year then something must be wrong with: The front office, the coaches, the players, God himself. And that means we should fire everyone and start all over again because there are SO many better coaches out there besides Joe Gibbs, right? The players on the otherhand, I could see some cuts and some new faces, but what happened to the whole, "stick with what you know" approach? Just because you go to the playoffs one year, doesn't mean that all of a sudden, you're supposed the new Colts and everything is just supposed to gel. And you're supposed to go 16-0 and beat on everyone in your division and go to the Superbowl. Especially when half of last year's squad is gone!

Granted, everyone had high hopes considering the new faces and high played players brought in here, and I believe everyones disappointed, but disappointed enough to wanna fire a Hall of Fame coach? Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

I hate it as much as everyone does when the Skins look like a bunch of pop warner football players running around like chickens with their heads cut off but damned if the so called "diehard" fans aren't the first to jump off the bandwagon when things go sour.

People are just like sheep. Poor helpless sheep that need to be put down.

Dexter Manley could do a better job of coaching this team!

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by mason4415

Dexter Manley could do a better job of coaching this team!

im not sure what to think about this statement?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by dmek25

im not sure what to think about this statement?

Don't even bother.

Hey mason, we all agreed to disagree and let this thread die, your cooperation would be greatly appreciated.

[pg86]

Im not jumping off this bandwagon...Joe Gibbs is an excellent coach....3 rings with 3 different QB's....and Im gonna say this a grip load of times, Joe Gibbs didn't just come to the skins and we started winning, He had like 3 losing seasons! JUST GIVE HIM A BREAK OK!?...Steve Spurrier couldn't do much a better job...we were on the verge of finishing 2-14 under him.....

[mason4415]

Originally Posted by pg86

Im not jumping off this bandwagon...Joe Gibbs is an excellent coach....3 rings with 3 different QB's....and Im gonna say this a grip load of times, Joe Gibbs didn't just come to the skins and we started winning, He had like 3 losing seasons! JUST GIVE HIM A BREAK OK!?...Steve Spurrier couldn't do much a better job...we were on the verge of finishing 2-14 under him.....

i hate to break it to you, but steve spurrier went 7-9 and 5-11 with MUCH MUCH MUCH less talent...

[paulskinsfan]

Bram Show

Jason Campbell is running the Joe Gibbs offense. No one is running the Gregg Williams defense. And now the mother of all off-seasons awaits.
In Redskin land, there is no such thing as plan B and thus the patience of Dan Snyder will be tested, as it never has before. Should Gibbs be true to his word and decide to return for a fourth and potentially fifth season, will Snyder force him to make changes? For the first time under his stewardship, Snyder has a coach he can’t micromanage. You can’t mess with an icon, even if the icon is the pilot of a crashing jet. You just put on your oxygen mask and use some blind faith.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

Bram Show

Interesting find. I bet a lot of people are going to say that it's all wrong but then they won't say why. Should be fun.