Im done....Gibbs must go.

[JWsleep]

Of course Gibbs is to blame--he's the head coach. And the team president. And no doubt Gibbs would be the first to agree with that.

But we gave up over 200 yards in rushing, had two killer TOs, a few crucial droped passes, and, let's face it, Campbell did not play well today, especailly in the second half. My feeling is fix the D and get Campbell some experience. Gibbs has earned the right to stay another year, IMHO. We need to fix the player acquisition issues--Gibbs could use some help there, and let's hope he does something about it. I feel that Saunders O will work with Campbell and Portis and our WRs and Cooley. The D needs work and the kid needs to get some seasoning. Cleaning house now won't do that--that didn't work before. It's going to take time. We lost to a better team today, IMO--folks may not want to admit it, but that's how it looked to me. The solution is getting better on D and getting JC and everyone comfortable with Saunders system. That won't happen until next year, so it's going to be painful to watch the rest of the year. But firing everyone and starting from scratch is a mistake.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by JWsleep

Of course Gibbs is to blame--he's the head coach. And the team president. And no doubt Gibbs would be the first to agree with that.

But we gave up over 200 yards in rushing, had two killer TOs, a few crucial droped passes, and, let's face it, Campbell did not play well today, especailly in the second half. My feeling is fix the D and get Campbell some experience. Gibbs has earned the right to stay another year, IMHO. We need to fix the player acquisition issues--Gibbs could use some help there, and let's hope he does something about it. I feel that Saunders O will work with Campbell and Portis and our WRs and Cooley. The D needs work and the kid needs to get some seasoning. Cleaning house now won't do that--that didn't work before. It's going to take time. We lost to a better team today, IMO--folks may not want to admit it, but that's how it looked to me. The solution is getting better on D and getting JC and everyone comfortable with Saunders system. That won't happen until next year, so it's going to be painful to watch the rest of the year. But firing everyone and starting from scratch is a mistake.

Do you realize, and I'm not trying to insult you here, that Gibbs, after this year, has two years left.

So now let's ask ourselves this: If we get more of the same, when do we clean house in two years or now?

[JWsleep]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Do you realize, and I'm not trying to insult you here, that Gibbs, after this year, has two years left.

So now let's ask ourselves this: If we get more of the same, when do we clean house in two years or now?

Of course I realize that. The answer is obvious from my post--in two years. The big thing to remember here is it's Saunders first year, and this was Campbell's third start. And cleaning house has been Snyder's MO. HOw's that worked out?

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by JWsleep

Of course I realize that. The answer is obvious from my post--in two years. The big thing to remember here is it's Saunders first year, and this was Campbell's third start. And cleaning house has been Snyder's MO. HOw's that worked out?

How has bringing Gibbs back worked out so far?

[ncskinsfanec]

Paul, I'm sure you're a good man and a die hard skins fan, but you're clearly thinking with your heart right now instead of your head. I know today's loss was another terrible dissapointment, but I think things are headed in the right direction. Let's face it we've had some devastating injuries this season, a tough schedule, and a new offensive system. I think if the skins can get some good defensive players in the draft and Jason Campbell continues to progress, next year could be very good, also the schedule will be easier with us facing NFC North and AFC East opponents. Don't forget the skins did make it to the playoffs last year and had a very good shot at getting to the NFC championship game, so Coach Gibbs obviously still knows a thing or two about coaching. What, would you rather still have Spurrier?

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

Im a Skins fan of over 20 years. Im sick and tired of the poor clock management, poor play calling at the end of the game, and poor personnell decisions. All of these are the responsibility of Joe Gibbs. Thus, reluctantly, I am now of the opinion that he must step down. The play calling and clock management have been atrocious for 3 years now. Good Bye Joe.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass. I'm sure Dallas could use another fan. When they play Joe Gibbs football THEY WIN. The first Quarter was Gibbs football. All that other Saunders crap is the reason we lose games.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

Don't let the door hit you in the ass. I'm sure Dallas could use another fan. When they play Joe Gibbs football THEY WIN. The first Quarter was Gibbs football. All that other Saunders crap is the reason we lose games.

Hess, what is Joe Gibbs football? And so, Gibbs is responsible for the first quarter, and Al Saunders for the remaining three?

Are you sure that's what you're trying to say?

[charlielyons]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Hess, what is Joe Gibbs football? And so, Gibbs is responsible for the first quarter, and Al Saunders for the remaining three?

Are you sure that's what you're trying to say?

as long as joe gibbs makes our personell decisions we will continue to make bone head off season moves ..... i would be surprised if we trade our 1st rounder this year for another aging qb....

[56FAN]

negativity, now's there's somethin new. the redskins are my team and i still like gibbs .as far as the hall comment goes ?, that's ignorant.that's about as much time as i want to waste on a tantrum.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by 56FAN

negativity, now's there's somethin new. the redskins are my team and i still like gibbs .as far as the hall comment goes ?, that's ignorant.that's about as much time as i want to waste spioled brat tantrum.

No one here is saying they don't like the Redskins all of sudden and I honestly don't feel like anyone is being negative.

There is a diffence between being negative and telling the truth.

[redskin63]

Since Every One Is Trying To Blame Someone Why Dont We Just Fire Everyone And Get A New Team, Sounds Crazy Huh? Just Like All The Crap That Everyone Is Writing, Take The Year For What Its Worth And Wait Till Next Year, Chemistry Will Be The One Thing That Gets This Team Into The Playoffs Again. Think About It, When You Played Sports, Your Team Mates Were Your Friends And People You Could Count On, Let These Ones Work Together For A Little While With Out Changing Something And I Garuntee A Better Year Next Year. How Well Would You Do With 3 Quaterback Changes, Swaping #1 Recievers, Dismanteling A Defense, And A Head Coach Getting Used To The New Nfl. Oh And Did I Forget To Mention A New 700 Page Playbook. Just Wait And See

[hesscl34]

I'm saying it causes inconsitency when you have two people trying to run one Offense. Gibbs knows how to run an offense, and from where I'm sitting all of that Saunders crap just causes confusion among staff and players. You end up chasing your tail when you don't stick with one kind of playing calling.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

I'm saying it causes inconsitency when you have two people trying to run one Offense. Gibbs knows how to run an offense, and from where I'm sitting all of that Saunders crap just causes confusion among staff and players. You end up chasing your tail when you don't stick with one kind of playing calling.

But Hess two things: 1. Gibbs bought Saunders here. 2. If he wanted things to be different, then Joe Gibbs needs to change it, not Al.

[Redskin]

Ok but what are you done with?

[hesscl34]

SNYDER brought Saunders here, and Gibbs allowed it and wanted it to HELP the team. Hind sight... 20/20. It was a mistake, too many chiefs. Get rid of him.