Im done....Gibbs must go.

[steveo395]

Well since you have all the answers Paulskinsfan, who should we hire as coach next year? Whoever it is, I doubt he will be better than Joe Gibbs and the rest of this staff. Gibbs knows what he's doing. He'll get this turned around next year.

[paulskinsfan]

Originally Posted by steveo395

Well since you have all the answers Paulskinsfan, who should we hire as coach next year? Whoever it is, I doubt he will be better than Joe Gibbs and the rest of this staff. Gibbs knows what he's doing. He'll get this turned around next year.

And if not next year, then the next. Then, if its not better we should give him another year, after all he is Joe Gibbs.

[paulskinsfan]

"Most of us feel it's a very weak defense, but whatever floats your boat."

Do a poll. This should be the question:

Who is the most responsible person for the current state of the Washington Redskins:

A. The Players
B. Dan Snyder
C. Joe Gibbs
D. Taylor Jacobs

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

"Most of us feel it's a very weak defense, but whatever floats your boat."

Do a poll. This should be the question:

Who is the most responsible person for the current state of the Washington Redskins:

A. The Players
B. Dan Snyder
C. Joe Gibbs
D. Taylor Jacobs

It's Taylor Jacobs.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

"Most of us feel it's a very weak defense, but whatever floats your boat."

Do a poll. This should be the question:

Who is the most responsible person for the current state of the Washington Redskins:

A. The Players
B. Dan Snyder
C. Joe Gibbs
D. Taylor Jacobs

This is quite skewed! You have said nothing about Gregg Williams who makes all the decisions about the defense and Joe Gibbs has said this over and over again, yet you say nothing about the defense. You say nothing about the rookie mistake of Jason Campbell throwing the INT when he should've ate the football. You say nothing about Campbell not seeing a wide open Chris Cooley on that drive where we should've scored on. You say nothing about the INT Campbell throws that put the nail in the coffin for us. You say nothing about our thin secondary, the injuries we've had to valuable guys like Springs for instance. All you have to say is it's all Joe Gibbs fault. If this is true, then are you willing to give Joe Gibbs the credit for getting this team in the playoffs and winning a playoff game in his second year back as head coach?

My point is, there are plenty of variables the equate to our losing season. Sure, Joe Gibbs is going to take all the blame, but to answer YOUR poll....everybody is to blame for our team this year. That isn't to say I think everyone needs to be fired, but everybody needs to improve on their job.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

This is quite skewed! You have said nothing about Gregg Williams who makes all the decisions about the defense and Joe Gibbs has said this over and over again, yet you say nothing about the defense. You say nothing about the rookie mistake of Jason Campbell throwing the INT when he should've ate the football. You say nothing about Campbell not seeing a wide open Chris Cooley on that drive where we should've scored on. You say nothing about the INT Campbell throws that put the nail in the coffin for us. You say nothing about our thin secondary, the injuries we've had to valuable guys like Springs for instance. All you have to say is it's all Joe Gibbs fault. If this is true, then are you willing to give Joe Gibbs the credit for getting this team in the playoffs and winning a playoff game in his second year back as head coach?

My point is, there are plenty of variables the equate to our losing season. Sure, Joe Gibbs is going to take all the blame, but to answer YOUR poll....everybody is to blame for our team this year. That isn't to say I think everyone needs to be fired, but everybody needs to improve on their job.

That makes too much sense.

It's easier to sit back and blame one guy.

[paulskinsfan]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

This is quite skewed! You have said nothing about Gregg Williams who makes all the decisions about the defense and Joe Gibbs has said this over and over again, yet you say nothing about the defense. You say nothing about the rookie mistake of Jason Campbell throwing the INT when he should've ate the football. You say nothing about Campbell not seeing a wide open Chris Cooley on that drive where we should've scored on. You say nothing about the INT Campbell throws that put the nail in the coffin for us. You say nothing about our thin secondary, the injuries we've had to valuable guys like Springs for instance. All you have to say is it's all Joe Gibbs fault. If this is true, then are you willing to give Joe Gibbs the credit for getting this team in the playoffs and winning a playoff game in his second year back as head coach?

My point is, there are plenty of variables the equate to our losing season. Sure, Joe Gibbs is going to take all the blame, but to answer YOUR poll....everybody is to blame for our team this year. That isn't to say I think everyone needs to be fired, but everybody needs to improve on their job.

Again. Whose decision was it to bring in Greg Williams and to let Greg Williams have complete autonomy with defensive personnel?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

Again. Whose decision was it to bring in Greg Williams and to let Greg Williams have complete autonomy with defensive personnel?

Nobody was complaining the last two years when he had a top 10 D.

[Citizens for 81]

Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

Again. Whose decision was it to bring in Greg Williams and to let Greg Williams have complete autonomy with defensive personnel?

Were you complaining about that decision last year or the year before that as well?

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

Again. Whose decision was it to bring in Greg Williams and to let Greg Williams have complete autonomy with defensive personnel?

This is why your defense is illogical. In an earlier post, you claimed it was Joe Gibbs' decision to get AA, yet in this post you're blaming Joe Gibbs for giving Williams complete autonomy. Again, it's a weak argument. You can put anyone in as head coach you want, and if Saunders and Williams continued to have under achieving offenses and defenses, you would still fire the head coach every year and ignore the coordinators.

[paulskinsfan]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

This is why your defense is illogical. In an earlier post, you claimed it was Joe Gibbs' decision to get AA, yet in this post you're blaming Joe Gibbs for giving Williams complete autonomy. Again, it's a weak argument. You can put anyone in as head coach you want, and if Saunders and Williams continued to have under achieving offenses and defenses, you would still fire the head coach every year and ignore the coordinators.

I never ever ever claimed that it was Joe Gibbs decesion to get AA. What I said was that if Joe Gibbs is going to give his defensive cord. autonomy to select the players he wants, then Joe Gibbs is ultimately responsible. Plain and simple. If a CEO fails to perform, he is ultimately responsible to the shareholders. Joe Gibbs is to blame, he must be held responsible, otherwise the "head coach" title is meaningless.

[12thMan]

If Gibbs was exposed to the NY media, they would eat his lunch during the pressers.

[paulskinsfan]

"If you chart improvement, we only have gotten better on offense since he came back."

Im going to disagree with you here, I don't think Gibbs offense has only gotten better since he's been here, I think it was pretty pathetic from the get go.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

"If you chart improvement, we only have gotten better on offense since he came back."

Im going to disagree with you here, I don't think Gibbs offense has only gotten better since he's been here, I think it was pretty pathetic from the get go.

Which is why we brought in Al Saunders. But you're still talking about Joe Gibbs' offense, when it isn't Joe Gibbs' offense anymore, nor is it Joe Gibbs' calling the plays.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

"If you chart improvement, we only have gotten better on offense since he came back."

Im going to disagree with you here, I don't think Gibbs offense has only gotten better since he's been here, I think it was pretty pathetic from the get go.

It was 11th in yardage and 13th in points last year.