Im done....Gibbs must go.

[12thMan]

The critism that Gibbs draws is totally warranted. Let's get a couple of things straight: The Redskins had a good tradition before Gibbs came here in the 80s. George Allen took the team to the Super Bowl if anyone cares to remember. I think what Gibbs did during his tenure was cement the franchise among the greatest in football.

Secondly, there seems to be an attitude that because Joe Gibbs has three Super Bowl rings, he's beyond reproach some how. I just don't get it. In three years since his arrival, the offense has been sporadic and inconsistent.

Al Saunders isn't the blame, Joe Gibbs is to blame. Daniel Snyder isn't to blame, Joe Gibbs is to blame. Gregg Williams isn't to blame, Joe Gibbs is to blame. Even when Williams fielded a top defense the past two years, we failed to give him an offense that could remotely keep pace and challenge to be a contender.

You guys can say what you will about Gibbs, but the bottom line...THE BOTTOM line is he hasn't done a good job since he has returned to Washington.

[charlielyons]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

The critism that Gibbs draws is totally warranted. Let's get a couple of things straight: The Redskins had a good tradition before Gibbs came here in the 80s. George Allen took the team to the Super Bowl if anyone cares to remember. I think what Gibbs did during his tenure was cement the franchise among the greatest in football.

Secondly, there seems to be an attitude that because Joe Gibbs has three Super Bowl rings, he's beyond reproach some how. I just don't get it. In three years since his arrival, the offense has been sporadic and inconsistent.

Al Saunders isn't the blame, Joe Gibbs is to blame. Daniel Snyder isn't to blame, Joe Gibbs is to blame. Gregg Williams isn't to blame, Joe Gibbs is to blame. Even when Williams fielded a top defense the past two years, we failed to give him an offense that could remotely keep pace and challenge to be a contender.

You guys can say what you will about Gibbs, but the bottom line...THE BOTTOM line is he hasn't done a good job since he has returned to Washington.

i know paul and i agree

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by charlielyons

i know paul and i agree

It's asanine the things the people actually say when it comes to Joe Gibbs. It's beyond me.

Look if the Cowboys can fire Tom 'friggin' Landry, we can certainly send some critism Joe Gibbs way.

[charlielyons]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

It's asanine the things the people actually say when it comes to Joe Gibbs. It's beyond me.

Look if the Cowboys can fire Tom 'friggin' Landry, we can certainly send some critism Joe Gibbs way.

and ditka and the bears and jimmie j with dallas

[DGreen28]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

The critism that Gibbs draws is totally warranted. Let's get a couple of things straight: The Redskins had a good tradition before Gibbs came here in the 80s. George Allen took the team to the Super Bowl if anyone cares to remember.

Secondly, there seems to be an attitude that because Joe Gibbs has three Super Bowl rings, he's beyond reproach some how. I just don't get it. In three years since his arrival, the offense has been sporadic and inconsistent.

Al Saunders isn't the blame, Joe Gibbs is to blame. Daniel Snyder isn't to blame, Joe Gibbs is to blame. Gregg Williams isn't to blame, Joe Gibbs is to blame. Even when Williams fielded a top defense the past two years, we failed to give him an offense that could remotely keep pace and challenge to be a contender.

You guys can say what you will about Gibbs, but the bottom line...THE BOTTOM line is he hasn't done a good job since he has returned to Washington.

So if you change the coach who comes in that is better

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by DGreen28

So if you change the coach who comes in that is better

That's another question...,which I could throw an answer out there by the way, but it has nothing to do with the argument I'm stating. I for one am simply stating that Gibbs has not done a good job since returning.

Sir, his record speaks for itself.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

The critism that Gibbs draws is totally warranted. Let's get a couple of things straight: The Redskins had a good tradition before Gibbs came here in the 80s. George Allen took the team to the Super Bowl if anyone cares to remember. I think what Gibbs did during his tenure was cement the franchise among the greatest in football.

Secondly, there seems to be an attitude that because Joe Gibbs has three Super Bowl rings, he's beyond reproach some how. I just don't get it. In three years since his arrival, the offense has been sporadic and inconsistent.

Al Saunders isn't the blame, Joe Gibbs is to blame. Daniel Snyder isn't to blame, Joe Gibbs is to blame. Gregg Williams isn't to blame, Joe Gibbs is to blame. Even when Williams fielded a top defense the past two years, we failed to give him an offense that could remotely keep pace and challenge to be a contender.

You guys can say what you will about Gibbs, but the bottom line...THE BOTTOM line is he hasn't done a good job since he has returned to Washington.

Agreed. He has not got the job done. However I hope he stays and fixes it.

[soccercycbk]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Agreed. He has not got the job done. However I hope he stays and fixes it.

Exactly. And thats the intended message of this thread. I don't understand why people can't accept this. It's ridiculous how so many are trying to bash Paul for saying this. It makes me so mad, so many people just stick up for Gibbs because of what he's accomplished. Overall, our offense has been terrible under Gibbs. Look at Coughlin and Parcells and what they've done in the same amount of time, with less money. I find it hard to believe that Gibbs has lost his coaching ability, and I don't agree that he shuld be fired, but at least I can accept the facts.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by soccercycbk

Exactly. And thats the intended message of this thread. I don't understand why people can't accept this. It's ridiculous how so many are trying to bash Paul for saying this. It makes me so mad, so many people just stick up for Gibbs because of what he's accomplished. Overall, our offense has been terrible under Gibbs. Look at Coughlin and Parcells and what they've done in the same amount of time, with less money. I find it hard to believe that Gibbs has lost his coaching ability, and I don't agree that he shuld be fired, but at least I can accept the facts.

The intended message of this thread is Gibbs can't get it done and needs to step down.

The majority of rational thinking fans will agree he hasn't gotten it done, but that same majority doesn't want a change at head coach.

[soccercycbk]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The intended message of this thread is Gibbs can't get it done and needs to step down.

The majority of rational thinking fans will agree he hasn't gotten it done, but that same majority doesn't want a change at head coach.

thats exactly what i said...

[MTK]

Originally Posted by soccercycbk

thats exactly what i said...

I was just clarifying that Paul wants a change, the majority of us don't. You seemed to breeze over that important note regarding the intention of this thread.

[paulskinsfan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I was just clarifying that Paul wants a change, the majority of us don't. You seemed to breeze over that important note regarding the intention of this thread.

Oh no, Ive angered the great Matt, how dare I disagree with him as he is the LORD OF THE THREADS! Im still waiting for you to justify Joe Gibbs returning for a fourth season based on his performance the last three years, or you could just keep blindly saying that you have faith in Gibbs and never have an opinion based on any fact whatsoever. It wasn't just yesterday, the man's clock management and play calling have been horrible, even the guys on Skins radio cannot defend him. Yep, the guys that work for Dan Snyder cannot even defend Joe Gibbs' performance, but Matt and company can. God forbid someone has an opinion based on facts and performance which is contrary to the mob mentality on this board. Heaven forbid a fan calls for change, then they're not a true fan, right? Still waiting on the Gibbs defense based on performance.

[gibbs4life]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

The critism that Gibbs draws is totally warranted. Let's get a couple of things straight: The Redskins had a good tradition before Gibbs came here in the 80s. George Allen took the team to the Super Bowl if anyone cares to remember. I think what Gibbs did during his tenure was cement the franchise among the greatest in football.

Secondly, there seems to be an attitude that because Joe Gibbs has three Super Bowl rings, he's beyond reproach some how. I just don't get it. In three years since his arrival, the offense has been sporadic and inconsistent.

Al Saunders isn't the blame, Joe Gibbs is to blame. Daniel Snyder isn't to blame, Joe Gibbs is to blame. Gregg Williams isn't to blame, Joe Gibbs is to blame. Even when Williams fielded a top defense the past two years, we failed to give him an offense that could remotely keep pace and challenge to be a contender.

You guys can say what you will about Gibbs, but the bottom line...THE BOTTOM line is he hasn't done a good job since he has returned to Washington.

then i guess he can always go back to his raceshop in charlotte then.
thats just MHO thats all.

oh yeah i voted no.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by gibbs4life

then i guess he can always go back to his raceshop in charlotte then.
thats just MHO thats all.

oh yeah i voted no.

Well for now, I'm sure the Skins are his focus.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Well for now, I'm sure the Skins are his focus.

Gibbs won't go down losing. He will find a way. Last year we all thought the man was God when we won 6 straight, now you all are screaming for his head. He will find a way to make this team win. Then he'll be God again.....