Im done....Gibbs must go.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Okay, so Gibbs has a bad season his first year back in the NFL. Realistically, we should have expected him to have a bad 1st year. Then, Gibbs guides us to our first playoff berth in 6 years. I don't think anyone can complain about that. Finally, Gibbs has a bad year in 2006. So, now people are ready to junk him and go back to the pre-Gibbs II era? No thanks, I'll take my chances with a Gibbs.

I feel sick.

[CrazyCanuck]

Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

And look at what coaches in New Orleans and the NY Jets have done in 1 year. Look at what Nolan has done in SF in 2 years. All of them started with less talent than Gibbs.

Ok you tell me, what exactly have the coaches in NO, NY, and SF done that's so great?

As for talent I disagree. Spurrier left this team in shambles. When Gibbs arrived there were 2 legitimate NFL players on this team - Coles and Bailey - and both wanted out.

[paulskinsfan]

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

Ok you tell me, what exactly have the coaches in NO, NY, and SF done that's so great?

As for talent I disagree. Spurrier left this team in shambles. When Gibbs arrived there were 2 legitimate NFL players on this team - Coles and Bailey - and both wanted out.

One word what those teams have that we dont....hope. They have shown that they can build a team with good young talent through the draft and free agency, we have not. Plus, they are still in contention for the playoffs.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

One word what those teams have that we dont....hope. They have shown that they can build a team with good young talent through the draft and free agency, we have not. Plus, they are still in contention for the playoffs.

Maybe you don't have hope. But don't speak for everyone. I, and I'm sure many others, see a lot of young talent on this team. Campbell, Cooley, Moss, Portis, Lloyd, Taylor, McIntosh, Golston, Washington, (just to name a few)

[paulskinsfan]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Maybe you don't have hope. But don't speak for everyone. I, and I'm sure many others, see a lot of young talent on this team. Campbell, Cooley, Moss, Portis, Lloyd, Taylor, McIntosh, Golston, Washington, (just to name a few)

Did I ever say I was speaking for you or anyone else TAFKAS? I have my opinion, you have yours.

[CrazyCanuck]

Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

One word what those teams have that we dont....hope. They have shown that they can build a team with good young talent through the draft and free agency, we have not. Plus, they are still in contention for the playoffs.

I have hope and the only reason is Joe Gibbs!

[CrazyCanuck]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I agree with you on your Gibbs points and I think the guy who called us the Arizona Cards of the East is overexaggerating. But I just want to point out to be fair that 25% of NFL teams get within a game of the Conference Championship every year. 25% of the NFC gets within a game of the NFC championship every year.

So while I think Gibbs should be commened for the job he did with the offense and turning the season around last year, but getting within one game of the conference championship isnt THAT great of an accomplishment.

I agree, I'm not saying that making the 2nd round of the playoffs is some amazing feat. But to compare us to the Arizona Cardinals makes no sense at all.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

I agree, I'm not saying that making the 2nd round of the playoffs is some amazing feat. But to compare us to the Arizona Cardinals makes no sense at all.

We are not much better since 92. Since Gibbs left after the 92 season we have made the playoffs twice. So over the last 14 years that 2 playoffs appearances. Not too good.

[CrazyCanuck]

And for the record my vote still shows "no", even though that was my reply to the original question.

I know it doesn't really make a difference, just wanted to clear my conscience.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

Did I ever say I was speaking for you or anyone else TAFKAS? I have my opinion, you have yours.

Well you said "one word what those teams have that we don't...hope"

Guess I took that to mean we, as in all of us, lack hope.

[724Skinsfan]

Thanks TAFKAS!

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

Thanks TAFKAS!

I just wanted to see what that would look like over top my sig. Not as impressive as I thought.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

One word what those teams have that we dont....hope. They have shown that they can build a team with good young talent through the draft and free agency, we have not. Plus, they are still in contention for the playoffs.

sean taylor, carlos rogers, chris cooley, jason campbell, marcus washington, santanna moss, clinton portis, they all seem to be young and talented. we were a good team last year, a bad team this year but with gibbs and greg williams running things i have , not only "hope" but "confidence" that we will return to greatness.

[mason4415]

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

Ok you tell me, what exactly have the coaches in NO, NY, and SF done that's so great?

As for talent I disagree. Spurrier left this team in shambles. When Gibbs arrived there were 2 legitimate NFL players on this team - Coles and Bailey - and both wanted out.

um, New Orleans is 8-4 (w/ more than 50% turnover from the previous year). Jets are 7-5 with less talent than us and a new coach (maybe stability is overrated. maybe we should look for competency). SF is 5-7 after getting rid of 2 of their "best" players Lloyd and Carter, and a serious lack of talent...

Are you BLIND or just DUMB?!

[CrazyCanuck]

Originally Posted by mason4415

"Be careful what we wish for"???? Are you kidding me? HOW COULD IT BE ANY WORSE?!

Here's how it could be worse:

- We could have the same record with a decent but soft coach who could never get his players properly focused or motivated. We could put up with this for 7 years, while only tasting the playoffs once. (The Turner Era)

- We could hire some flashy college genius to come in here and revolutionize the modern NFL offense. He could totally abandon the defense, while his offensive "blocking" schemes rattle our young QB so much that he never fully recovers. And he could do all this to pad his own ego without giving the slightest thought to the future or stability of our franchise. (The Spurrier Era)

- We could hire Dennis Green.