Bill B Presents TMC's Pick the Position Poll

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by The Zimmermans

Interesting point on the holding penalties. Something is wrong when every guy on the line gets a holding penalty or false start each game. There isn't one specific person though, they all are guilty of it. And yes, the pass protection has struggled a lot (but that might have to do with Saunders and the H-Backs and tightends picking up blitzes properly.

We are actually very good at not getting false starts, which means Bugel has done a good job installing discipline into this group.

But Pucillo and Dockery are both free agents and this unit needs to be upgraded.

[The Zimmermans]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

We are actually very good at not getting false starts, which means Bugel has done a good job installing discipline into this group.

But Pucillo and Dockery are both free agents and this unit needs to be upgraded.

We are leading the league in penalties, I wouldn't say we are very good at anything. Not giving up sacks has to be attributed to the brunell snap and release style of offense all season.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I went with something a little more surprising here. I said OG. Our pass pro has been horrid at times this season, we are among the tops of the league in holding penalties, and Dockery is a free agent. I want a OG who can start from day 1 and pass block better than DD while also being powerful in the run game.

Do you know that we've given up just 17 sacks this season?

That's 4th best in the league.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Do you know that we've given up just 17 sacks this season?

That's 4th best in the league.

I did NOT know that, but I was talking more about the pressures, and I think that low sack total is due to Brunell getting the ball out of his hands quickly. We didnt give up a sack in multiple games this year, but that doesn't mean there wasn't consistent pressure all day.

Also with the holding penalties that we commit all time time, are those not sacks if we dont commit the penalty?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I did NOT know that, but I was talking more about the pressures, and I think that low sack total is due to Brunell getting the ball out of his hands quickly. We didnt give up a sack in multiple games this year, but that doesn't mean there wasn't consistent pressure all day.

Also with the holding penalties that we commit all time time, are those not sacks if we dont commit the penalty?

Yeah, I'd be curious to know how many times we were hurried

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Yeah, I'd be curious to know how many times we were hurried

Last year we were hurried more than any team in the NFL according to the Pro Football Prospectus.

Page 284: 2006 Edition

Washington's interior linemen are big fans of holding. Center Casey Rabach was second in the league with eight holding penalties. Guard Derrick Dockery was right behind him with seven. All that holding didn't help the line keep the pass rush away from Mark Brunell; game charters marked Brunell with a hurried pass 128 times, the highest total in the league. The entire line, however, did an exceptional job at avoiding false starts. Washington's five starters were called for a false start only eight times all year. That's just two more than Santana Moss and Chris Cooley combined, and two fewer than Luke Petitigout all by himself.

Washington's run blocking improved substancially from 2004 to 2005. Some of that can be attributed to a full season from Jon Jansen, but a lot of the credit has to go to Washington's tight ends, H-backs, and fullbacks. The Redskins used a multiple TE formation on 47% of their offensive plays and ran out of that formation 58% of the time.

This year I have no idea.

[MTK]

A few weeks ago I was thinking that we should replace Dockery but lately I've been watching him more and he's actually having a very good season. I'd like to see us re-sign him and keep the starting 5 in place for a few more seasons.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

A few weeks ago I was thinking that we should replace Dockery but lately I've been watching him more and he's actually having a very good season. I'd like to see us re-sign him and keep the starting 5 in place for a few more seasons.

We would be crazy to replace him. (my opinion)

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

A few weeks ago I was thinking that we should replace Dockery but lately I've been watching him more and he's actually having a very good season. I'd like to see us re-sign him and keep the starting 5 in place for a few more seasons.

I still think we need more production out of the unit. Dockery may not be back anyway, but we have a lot of money wrapped up in the other 4, and although I think that Rabach is the main culprit, Dockery is the most easily replacable. When I answered the poll question, I was talking about getting a really good player in there, not some serviceable guard.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I still think we need more production out of the unit. Dockery may not be back anyway, but we have a lot of money wrapped up in the other 4, and although I think that Rabach is the main culprit, Dockery is the most easily replacable. When I answered the poll question, I was talking about getting a really good player in there, not some serviceable guard.

I think Docks value is underestimated on this line. He's not spectacular, but he's a good lineman. Trust me, he could walk and get some money in the league.

I'd be very surprised if we didn't lock him up real soon.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

A few weeks ago I was thinking that we should replace Dockery but lately I've been watching him more and he's actually having a very good season. I'd like to see us re-sign him and keep the starting 5 in place for a few more seasons.

Without a doubt. Our line is beast.

People are giving too much credit to Ladell Betts. He is nothing more than an average RB. He doesn't have blazing speed, doesn't have crazy elusiveness. He hits holes really hard and decisively. Lately, the holes have been the size of the Grand Canyon. The running game credit should go more to the line than to Betts, IMO.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Without a doubt. Our line is beast.

People are giving too much credit to Ladell Betts. He is nothing more than an average RB. He doesn't have blazing speed, doesn't have crazy elusiveness. He hits holes really hard and decisively. Lately, the holes have been the size of the Grand Canyon. The running game credit should go more to the line than to Betts, IMO.

You hit it right on the head!! Excellent post!!!

[MTK]

Jansen is nursing a calf injury that basically keeps him out of practice most of each week. It's probably more serious than we know. Get him healthy and he's still a very good RT.

[hesscl34]

Why is the thread title - "Bill B presents" ??

[Schneed10]

In our defensive system, we don't want DEs who are purely pass rushers. Guys like KGB or Derrick Burgess are not what Gregg Williams wants. It's more important that they play the run well; if they can rush the passer on top of it, then that's gravy.

Grilliams likes to stop the run on first down and force teams into 2nd & longs & 3rd & longs. Then with a stud secondary to limit QB's options, he can feel free to blitz LBs all day long.

His system means the following:
Priority 1: Shut-down secondary (that's intimidating and hard hitting in run support).
Priority 2: Run-stopping D-Line.
Priority 3: Flexibility at the LB position (they should be able to drop into coverage, tackle well, and blitz their ass off).

Conclusions:
Wynn, Daniels, and Carter are good ends for our system, especially with Carter coming on as of late. Daniels is stout against the run, but he's not fully healthy right now. We don't want a DE.

We are in desperate need of a CB to help shut down WRs. Springs is old, Rogers does not look like a budding #1 at this point, and Kenny Wright is old and marginal.

We are also in desperate need of a SS. Adam Archuleta was a dismal failure and he's never going to be good enough in coverage. He's only useful in spot blitz duty. We must admit that we need to address SS badly. The SS must cover well, communicate well with Taylor, and hit like a ton of bricks.

We need a DT pretty bad. Griffin is still stout, but Golston is undersized. Golston makes quick pass-rushing moves, but does not clog the middle well enough.

We could use an upgrade at LB, but it's not the biggest priority.

My simple answer is CB.