Tony McGee On Redskins at 4-9

[The Zimmermans]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Doubt it. He was more hesitant scrambling this year.

Are you still trying to tell me that a few select plays make up for a consistent drop in performance?

yes, exactly my point, brunell doesn't make those few game changing plays that we need. The ones that give the offense life. The ones that get us yards even if the O-line breaks down, or the receivers are covered.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by The Zimmermans

yes, exactly my point, brunell doesn't make those few game changing plays that we need. The ones that give the offense life. The ones that get us yards even if the O-line breaks down, or the receivers are covered.

Touche on that "playmaker" point, but what has resulted from all that playmaking?

Ultimately, our passing offense has suffered, so although Campbell's scrambling makes the gap between the players closer than the passing stats say, there has still been a very noticible drop in production. This drop in production is killing us now that our running game is working for us.

If you are saying that it was time to move on because Brunell wasn't getting any younger, then I agree with you 100%. If your point is that our offense is better right now under JC, then you are just being ridiculous.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by The Zimmermans

yes, exactly my point, brunell doesn't make those few game changing plays that we need. The ones that give the offense life. The ones that get us yards even if the O-line breaks down, or the receivers are covered.

Agreed, Brunell doesn't make those plays. You know, we can spin stats to say a lot of things. But one thing is for sure, the offensive line and the running game in particular has been transformed since Campbell has been in. I don't think it's a coincidence either.

As far as Brunell averaging one more yd per pass play than Campbell or whatever it is, again if we compare apples to apples I'm willing to bet it's a different story. In other words, if they both have the same number of attempts, I betcha Campbell's numbers look better. That's the only way to truly compare that number.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

As far as Brunell averaging one more yd per pass play than Campbell or whatever it is, again if we compare apples to apples I'm willing to bet it's a different story. In other words, if they both have the same number of attempts, I betcha Campbell's numbers look better. That's the only way to truly compare that number.

In his last four starts Brunell had 121 attempts. In his first four starts Campbell had 122 attempts

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

As far as Brunell averaging one more yd per pass play than Campbell or whatever it is, again if we compare apples to apples I'm willing to bet it's a different story. In other words, if they both have the same number of attempts, I betcha Campbell's numbers look better. That's the only way to truly compare that number.

Well, that's why you do per attempt stats to standardize the numbers.

Obviously the more attempts you have, the more accurate the stats will be. But that doesnt favor one QB over the other. The truth is that you can quite easily compare apples to apples, and I have been this whole time.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Well, that's why you do per attempt stats to standardize the numbers.

Obviously the more attempts you have, the more accurate the stats will be. But that doesnt favor one QB over the other. The truth is that you can quite easily compare apples to apples, and I have been this whole time.

Well, as I mentioned in an earlier post, Brunell's total attempts in his last 4 starts is almost exactly the same as Campbell's total in his first 4 (121 vs. 122)

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Well, as I mentioned in an earlier post, Brunell's total attempts in his last 4 starts is almost exactly the same as Campbell's total in his first 4 (121 vs. 122)

It's certainly a good comparison.