Casserly Keeping his options open

[Bill B]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'd blame that on Norv.

It was a lose/lose that year anyway, it was either Shuler or Dilfer.

Quite true. I am a huge SEC fan and I think if you asked anyone who followed the SEC if Heath Shuler was going to be a good pro they would have said yes.

What the current front office does not do is somehing I wish someone at Redskin Park would be able to pull off was the trade Casserly made with Mike Ditka when we got all the draft picks from the Saints - absolute steal.

But I don't see Gibbs working with any GM as he wants to prove to everyone that holding down both the coach and GM positions can work.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Bill B

What the current front office does not do is somehing I wish someone at Redskin Park would be able to pull off was the trade Casserly made with Mike Ditka when we got all the draft picks from the Saints - absolute steal.

A trade like that would only happen again is if Ditka came back to coach.

Nobody is that crazy to give away so much, that one fell into our laps.

[Bill B]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

A trade like that would only happen again is if Ditka came back to coach.

Nobody is that crazy to give away so much, that one fell into our laps.

You have to give Casserly some props for making that happen though.

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by Bill B

You have to give Casserly some props for making that happen though.

How many SuperBowl trophies did we collect with all those extra draft picks anyway?

[Bill B]

Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

How many SuperBowl trophies did we collect with all those extra draft picks anyway?

So you wouldn't have made that deal?

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by Bill B

So you wouldn't have made that deal?

Of course I would have made that deal. It was simply rhetoric implying that a large number of draft choices do not make a Super Bowl champion. What we do or have done with our draft choices is based on poor talent evaluation by both a GM and our coaches. Since the early 90's I can remember more busts or non-contributing draft choices than quality starters that the Redskins have drafted. That's not to say the latter is really less than the former, it's just my own recollection.

I don't know if any changes since 1992 have been made as far as how college level talent is evaluated. It doesn't seem to me that having a GM or the Coach make those decisions really matters either way. Someone needs to learn how to get it right or at least better.

[Bill B]

Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

Of course I would have made that deal. It was simply rhetoric implying that a large number of draft choices do not make a Super Bowl champion. What we do or have done with our draft choices is based on poor talent evaluation by both a GM and our coaches. Since the early 90's I can remember more busts or non-contributing draft choices than quality starters that the Redskins have drafted. That's not to say the latter is really less than the former, it's just my own recollection.

I don't know if any changes since 1992 have been made as far as how college level talent is evaluated. It doesn't seem to me that having a GM or the Coach make those decisions really matters either way. Someone needs to learn how to get it right or at least better.

Wouldn't building a team with the focus on free agents instead of the draft impede the teams ability to build continuity due to the salary cap when high priced free agents salaries escalate out of control whereas a drated player (outside of high first round picks) come relatively cheap.

Also aren't draft picks taken in the lower rounds more hungry to prove themselves versus someone who gets a $10 millin bonus (AA ring a bell?)

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Bill B

Quite true. I am a huge SEC fan and I think if you asked anyone who followed the SEC if Heath Shuler was going to be a good pro they would have said yes.

What the current front office does not do is somehing I wish someone at Redskin Park would be able to pull off was the trade Casserly made with Mike Ditka when we got all the draft picks from the Saints - absolute steal.

But I don't see Gibbs working with any GM as he wants to prove to everyone that holding down both the coach and GM positions can work.

I remember watching Shuler back when he was at Tenn. He wore that silly #21 for a QB. I honestly never saw any NFL talent in him. At the time he was more of a running QB and was not playing in a pro style offense. Perhaps you can fill me in on this but I remember him running a lot of option plays. I believe at the time Tenn. was not even running the type of offense they do now. And when he got here you could see that the 7th rounder, Gus F. was much more ready for the NFL game than Shuler was. The pick just made no sense what so ever.