Casserly Keeping his options open

[Bill B]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

A trade like that would only happen again is if Ditka came back to coach.

Nobody is that crazy to give away so much, that one fell into our laps.

You have to give Casserly some props for making that happen though.

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by Bill B

You have to give Casserly some props for making that happen though.

How many SuperBowl trophies did we collect with all those extra draft picks anyway?

[Bill B]

Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

How many SuperBowl trophies did we collect with all those extra draft picks anyway?

So you wouldn't have made that deal?

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by Bill B

So you wouldn't have made that deal?

Of course I would have made that deal. It was simply rhetoric implying that a large number of draft choices do not make a Super Bowl champion. What we do or have done with our draft choices is based on poor talent evaluation by both a GM and our coaches. Since the early 90's I can remember more busts or non-contributing draft choices than quality starters that the Redskins have drafted. That's not to say the latter is really less than the former, it's just my own recollection.

I don't know if any changes since 1992 have been made as far as how college level talent is evaluated. It doesn't seem to me that having a GM or the Coach make those decisions really matters either way. Someone needs to learn how to get it right or at least better.

[Bill B]

Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

Of course I would have made that deal. It was simply rhetoric implying that a large number of draft choices do not make a Super Bowl champion. What we do or have done with our draft choices is based on poor talent evaluation by both a GM and our coaches. Since the early 90's I can remember more busts or non-contributing draft choices than quality starters that the Redskins have drafted. That's not to say the latter is really less than the former, it's just my own recollection.

I don't know if any changes since 1992 have been made as far as how college level talent is evaluated. It doesn't seem to me that having a GM or the Coach make those decisions really matters either way. Someone needs to learn how to get it right or at least better.

Wouldn't building a team with the focus on free agents instead of the draft impede the teams ability to build continuity due to the salary cap when high priced free agents salaries escalate out of control whereas a drated player (outside of high first round picks) come relatively cheap.

Also aren't draft picks taken in the lower rounds more hungry to prove themselves versus someone who gets a $10 millin bonus (AA ring a bell?)

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by Bill B

Wouldn't building a team with the focus on free agents instead of the draft impede the teams ability to build continuity due to the salary cap when high priced free agents salaries escalate out of control whereas a drated player (outside of high first round picks) come relatively cheap.

Also aren't draft picks taken in the lower rounds more hungry to prove themselves versus someone who gets a $10 millin bonus (AA ring a bell?)

I guess, but I think that generally speaking a FA is a proven player that has shown to be able to play at the NFL level. A draft pick may or may not be able to take it to the next level as we have painfully recognized. I think AA is a rare exception regarding expensive FA busts.

Also, I do agree that you have a better chance of building depth through the draft but that's sort of countered by having a higher quality starting roster, in my opion that was built through FA.

Personally, I like a nice even mix of draft picks and FA. I have a"win now" mindset though which favors getting immediate starters (FA) to fill gaps in the roster.

[Bill B]

Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

I guess, but I think that generally speaking a FA is a proven player that has shown to be able to play at the NFL level. A draft pick may or may not be able to take it to the next level as we have painfully recognized. I think AA is a rare exception regarding expensive FA busts.

Also, I do agree that you have a better chance of building depth through the draft but that's sort of countered by having a higher quality starting roster, in my opion that was built through FA.

Personally, I like a nice even mix of draft picks and FA. I have a"win now" mindset though which favors getting immediate starters (FA) to fill gaps in the roster.

Would you consider Lloyd to be one of these players? What about the kick returner we got from the Jets that we paid a draft pick for and gave an above average salary for?

I agree that getting some free agents is a must but to go at it the way the Redskins do with as much disregard for the draft does not make sense to me as far as long range planning goes.

I will say the one area I wished the Redskins would spend above average money on and do it early is a kicker if Suisham does not work out.

[paulskinsfan]

Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

I guess, but I think that generally speaking a FA is a proven player that has shown to be able to play at the NFL level. A draft pick may or may not be able to take it to the next level as we have painfully recognized. I think AA is a rare exception regarding expensive FA busts.

Also, I do agree that you have a better chance of building depth through the draft but that's sort of countered by having a higher quality starting roster, in my opion that was built through FA.

Personally, I like a nice even mix of draft picks and FA. I have a"win now" mindset though which favors getting immediate starters (FA) to fill gaps in the roster.

The problem IMO is that draft picks let you get a player locked in for 4-6 years at a relatively cheap price. An overpriced FA hits the cap alot harder with bigger signing bonus and salary. Look at Cooley's contract, he was really cheap the past few years so we could use money to acquire FAs. If you give away picks, or if they don't make the team, then you've missed out on cheap talent.