Should Archuleta play defense Sunday?

[MTK]

I blame Archuleta for sucking so bad, and I blame Williams for thinking he could turn him into something he's not... a quality safety.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I blame Archuleta for sucking so bad, and I blame Williams for thinking he could turn him into something he's not... a quality safety.

When you walk out on a limb, it can do 1 of 2 things, support you, or break. If you don't take a chance, you aren't living.
I don't blame Williams for taking a chance. He thought it would work, it didn't. We all make mistakes. Live and learn. I do blame Archuletta for playing like complete crap though. I think he signed his contact and took a back seat along with all that cash.

[JDALY27]

Originally Posted by jsarno

When you walk out on a limb, it can do 1 of 2 things, support you, or break. If you don't take a chance, you aren't living.
I don't blame Williams for taking a chance. He thought it would work, it didn't. We all make mistakes. Live and learn. I do blame Archuletta for playing like complete crap though. I think he signed his contact and took a back seat along with all that cash.

Very bad move. Cut him and be done with it. He can't cover anything and would be best someplace else.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by JDALY27

Very bad move. Cut him and be done with it. He can't cover anything and would be best someplace else.

Absolutely agree.
I think part of the problem is you can't have 2 run stopping safties. One has to dedicate himself to stopping the pass, and Taylor already called run stopping.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by jsarno

When you walk out on a limb, it can do 1 of 2 things, support you, or break. If you don't take a chance, you aren't living.
I don't blame Williams for taking a chance. He thought it would work, it didn't. We all make mistakes. Live and learn. I do blame Archuletta for playing like complete crap though. I think he signed his contact and took a back seat along with all that cash.

I do agree with your point about taking chances, but at the same time they need to be well calculated chances. He's an awfully expensive mistake to have to swallow.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I do agree with your point about taking chances, but at the same time they need to be well calculated chances. He's an awfully expensive mistake to have to swallow.

Very true.
Wouldn't be the first time we endured a horrible signing. Dieon, Bruce Smith etc.
Which brings up an interesting question: Is AA the worst Skins signing ever?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Very true.
Wouldn't be the first time we endured a horrible signing. Dieon, Bruce Smith etc.
Which brings up an interesting question: Is AA the worst Skins signing ever?

I'd say the worst move was signing Jeff George and at the same time not giving Brad Johnson a new contract.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'd say the worst move was signing Jeff George and at the same time not giving Brad Johnson a new contract.

That was pretty bad.

Would Heath Shuler count as a draft pick signing?

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'd say the worst move was signing Jeff George and at the same time not giving Brad Johnson a new contract.

I can think of one better: The NY Giants MLB (I forget his name) we signed in early 2000's and never played a down. I think he came in the same FA class that OG Dave Foire who we signed from SF 49ers, who also played just a few plays of one game and retired due to a bad knee. Both in one year. Between the two of them we paid millions and they never played an entire game.

At least AA played some, although it was shit play.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

I can think of one better: The NY Giants MLB (I forget his name) we signed in early 2000's and never played a down. I think he came in the same FA class that OG Dave Foire who we signed from SF 49ers, who also played just a few plays of one game and retired due to a bad knee. Both in one year. Between the two of them we paid millions and they never played an entire game.

At least AA played some, although it was shit play.

But at the same time we probably wouldn't have found out about Pierce had Barrow played. Until that year Barrow was a NFL iron man, it was shit luck that he didn't play. Fiore had obvious injury concerns and was a risky pickup.

With our notoriously shaky history at QB, I really think screwing over Johnson was a huge mistake. He could have been a very solid QB for us for many years.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I blame Archuleta for sucking so bad, and I blame Williams for thinking he could turn him into something he's not... a quality safety.

I agree he's been bad, but is he any worse than Holdman or Marshall have been? I'm not an AA apologist but the guy was one of the better strong safties in the NFL a couple years ago and has some solid natural ability. He couldn't cover a cake with a bucket of frosting but are there NO defensive sets he won't' be completely exposed in? Let's face it, Vernon Fox hasn't set the world on fire and Vincent hasn't been back out there since he got predictably hurt. Arch may not be the best but is he worse than a journeyman and a guy who was on the couch Oct. 1st?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I agree he's been bad, but is he any worse than Holdman or Marshall have been? I'm not an AA apologist but the guy was one of the better strong safties in the NFL a couple years ago and has some solid natural ability. He couldn't cover a cake with a bucket of frosting but are there NO defensive sets he won't' be completely exposed in? Let's face it, Vernon Fox hasn't set the world on fire and Vincent hasn't been back out there since he got predictably hurt. Arch may not be the best but is he worse than a journeyman and a guy who was on the couch Oct. 1st?

Yes, he was definitely worse than Holdman or Marshall. Our secondary with him in there was a joke. It's one thing if you're not a great cover guy at LB, it's another thing entirely when you are a safety.

[The Zimmermans]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Yes, he was definitely worse than Holdman or Marshall. Our secondary with him in there was a joke. It's one thing if you're not a great cover guy at LB, it's another thing entirely when you are a safety.

We have really slowed down with giving up the huge pass plays since we benched him, he must really have been THAT BAD

[JDALY27]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Yes, he was definitely worse than Holdman or Marshall. Our secondary with him in there was a joke. It's one thing if you're not a great cover guy at LB, it's another thing entirely when you are a safety.

Looks like Rocky will get his first NFL start this Sunday. I'm anxious to see what he can do. Seems like # 52 is always around the ball on special teams.......another ball game starting on the outside! Good Luck ROCKY!!!!

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by JDALY27

Looks like Rocky will get his first NFL start this Sunday. I'm anxious to see what he can do. Seems like # 52 is always around the ball on special teams.......another ball game starting on the outside! Good Luck ROCKY!!!!

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