Redskins-Rams: Postgame Thoughts

[skinsfan69]

Does anyone remember last years game against the Rams? Well the difference was that Bulger played in this game and he was out last year. Bulger has real good chemistry w/ his WR's. He was thowing the ball well before any of his WR's broke out of their routes. Let's hope that JC develops that with Moss, LLoyd and ARE during the offseason. WR's were nowhere to be found today.

[itvnetop]

guys, it's football... fumbles happen... it's too easy to say betts should have done this or that to prevent it, but sometimes on the field balls are knocked away in game speed. it's unfortunate betts coughed it up when he did, but he had an outstanding game otherwise. the last few weeks, everyone has been praising his play (much of what has to do with the o-line's success) and after this fumble, people say he should be traded.

don't let the extreme emotions rule your general perception. the guy has shown to be a steady contributor, he reads his blocks, cuts up the field quickly, shown great vision and can catch out of the backfield. He makes a crucial fumble that probably prevents a win- but stephen jackson fumbles late in the game that gives us a chance to tie. jeff wilkins misses a 41 yarder that should have won it for the rams. there were several opportunities for either team to grab the win.

it's football and it happens. it was an exciting game, but remember betts' fumble wasn't the end all be all to the final result. it looks as though sean springs is a bigger part of the D than we thought... taylor seems lost without him in the backfield.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by itvnetop

guys, it's football... fumbles happen... it's too easy to say betts should have done this or that to prevent it, but sometimes on the field balls are knocked away in game speed. it's unfortunate betts coughed it up when he did, but he had an outstanding game otherwise. the last few weeks, everyone has been praising his play (much of what has to do with the o-line's success) and after this fumble, people say he should be traded.

don't let the extreme emotions rule your general perception. the guy has shown to be a steady contributor, he reads his blocks, cuts up the field quickly, shown great vision and can catch out of the backfield. He makes a crucial fumble that probably prevents a win- but stephen jackson fumbles late in the game that gives us a chance to tie. jeff wilkins misses a 41 yarder that should have won it for the rams. there were several opportunities for either team to grab the win.

it's football and it happens. it was an exciting game, but remember betts' fumble wasn't the end all be all to the final result. it looks as though sean springs is a bigger part of the D than we thought... taylor seems lost without him in the backfield.

Nice post. It concerns me that Taylor is lost without Clark, lost without Springs, lost without Sportscurmudgeon. I understand this is a team sport, but he's supposed to be a star in this league. He can't be so dependent on others for his success on the field.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Nice post. It concerns me that Taylor is lost without Clark, lost without Springs, lost without Sportscurmudgeon. I understand this is a team sport, but he's supposed to be a star in this league. He can't be so dependent on others for his success on the field.

So true. I'm tired of all the talk how he misses Clark. Get over it and ball like your suppose too. Taylor played like crap today. Plain and simple.

[VTSkins897]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

So true. I'm tired of all the talk how he misses Clark. Get over it and ball like your suppose too. Taylor played like crap today. Plain and simple.

absolutely agree.

[jamf]

Holdman needs turn in his playbook. He was aweful.

My biggest concern is Campbell. 50% completion percentage is not going to get it done. He really struggles on 3rd downs. Late in the 4th, On 3rd and 4, we rushed the ball. If we had any confidence in Campbell they would've thrown.
3 Completions to WR's is a joke. More than Half his yards from cooley is a joke.
If this kid with the big arm isnt going to throw downfield, Why is he in there? He isn't accurate on the short throws. His release to too slow for quickpasses.
It looked like he had plenty of time today, I think he was only touched once and no one was ever open? QB play was just as bad as the defence proven by the fact that we ran on 3rd and 4 from our 34 yardline with 3 minutes remaining. I don't care that we put up alot of points either, he still played like a chump.

Taylor played like crap. But a few of his mistakes were from trying to recover from a teammates mistakes.

G.Williams is having some problems. Playing off coverages requires a lot of pressure. We got very little. Any QB can sit back and pick apart out zone defence with a little time.

Btw, the Ade got a costly penalty called on him. But he actually was playing his WR. He Matched up with a probowl WR and tried to shut him down(played great outside of that one play).
What is Rogers doing out there? He looks like he is playing safety. He is so scared of getting beat deep, he gives up Intermediate routes all day long. If this fool is scared of getting beat, he is playing the wrong position. I honestly would rather see Jimoh try to play corner like a real corner and get beat that see rogers play off and give up 1st downs all day.

[4mrusmc]

Things to think about next year: I would like to see S. Springs play safety opposite S. Taylor. When Springs goes down at corner back the impact is too great. We need an immediate starter to replace Springs at corner. We also need a stud Defensive End to replace Daniels. Maybe move Daniels to the interior part of the line since he cannot get any pressure out on the edge. Or just send Daniels on his way because other than that 5 game stretch last year he has been a nonfactor since he has joined us. A. Archuleta, um he needs to give all of his money back to our fine organization because ever since he inked his deal to come here, he has sucked balls! We need to get a monster linebacker or maybe try to move Arch. there and see what he can do. Don't worry, P. Prealou (sp?) will be back next year to help out at saftety or corner. And freaking G. Williams needs to get over himself and start to coach these guys up to their potential. There defense is fixed!

[Bill B]

Originally Posted by 4mrusmc

Things to think about next year: I would like to see S. Springs play safety opposite S. Taylor. When Springs goes down at corner back the impact is too great. We need an immediate starter to replace Springs at corner. We also need a stud Defensive End to replace Daniels. Maybe move Daniels to the interior part of the line since he cannot get any pressure out on the edge. Or just send Daniels on his way because other than that 5 game stretch last year he has been a nonfactor since he has joined us. A. Archuleta, um he needs to give all of his money back to our fine organization because ever since he inked his deal to come here, he has sucked balls! We need to get a monster linebacker or maybe try to move Arch. there and see what he can do. Don't worry, P. Prealou (sp?) will be back next year to help out at saftety or corner. And freaking G. Williams needs to get over himself and start to coach these guys up to their potential. There defense is fixed!

I think you got to have cutting Holdman in there as well - add linebacker to the free agent list wish. If we move Shawn to safety he will need to restructure his contract - than the team will go after Clements because of his familairy with G Willimas to shore up corner.
I think Daniels is to small for the interior - drafting Alan Branch from Michigan solves that problem. If we cut Archie it has to be post June 1st to spread the cap hit. With these moves we just need a DE to come in and heplp get sacks.

[AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace]

This may be a little late...but the cursing is rediculous...as far as Betts goes...he didn't lose the game, the O played well I thought, anytime you score that many points, you should win. The D lost the game, but the minute he did that...I looked at my dad and said, "This is why Portis starts" Does anyone remember when S. Davis used to fumble at terrible times? He got real bad at holding onto the ball down on the 1 yard line it seemed. Betts kind of remindes me of him in that respect.

[jamf]

Originally Posted by AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace

Does anyone remember when S. Davis used to fumble at terrible times? He got real bad at holding onto the ball down on the 1 yard line it seemed. Betts kind of remindes me of him in that respect.

God I remember the fumble against dallas

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by jamf

God I remember the fumble against dallas

I remember the Arizona game, I think Aenias Williams picked it up and ran it back for like 99 yards. Also, didn't he fumble versus Carolina on the goal line. Controversal call.

I think somewhere "The Man" has a FUMBLE button that he can press whenever the Skins are close to winning a game which may lead to a successfule season.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace

Does anyone remember when S. Davis used to fumble at terrible times? He got real bad at holding onto the ball down on the 1 yard line it seemed. Betts kind of remindes me of him in that respect.

Were you a member of this site, then? People around here acted like they wanted Stephen cut after that play. I remember how "overrated" he suddenly became. Trust me, the anger towards a guy who fumbled late in a game isn't new. A lot of us have never been particularly tolerant of it, myself included. No matter how much I liked Stephen Davis, I was really pissed. I never said he should be (and I never said that about Betts either) but it certainly irritates the hell out of me when a guy fumbles away a chance to win a football game. If it doesn't happen, the Skins win the football game...I don't take well to losing, especially not in a situation like that.

[GTripp0012]

We could have won this game about 7 or 8 different times, and Betts is responsible for costing us exactly ONE of those oppertunities. So he deserves about 12.5% of the blame for this loss (I just made all those figures up, but I have to assume through observation that they are somewhat close to accurate).

I don't buy the fact that a fumble at that point in the game is significantly more costly than any other part of the game. Yeah, it changes the entire complexity of the game at that point, but wouldn't it be just as costly at any other point. We had 31 points, would have been in FG range, and we fumbled it away. No matter what part of the game it occurs in, it costs us a high pct. shot at atleast 3 points. We just remember it because it was a high pressure situation.

Probably was the most inexcusible of all the mistakes, maybe 2nd to ST's complete...I don't even know what to call it...on Jackson's long TD reception, but that doesn't make it our only fatal flaw.

[redsk1]

It's pretty sad that Betts has drawn as much critizism as he has. He is our backup RB and has done a heck of a job this season. One mistake and everyone jumps on him.

I don't remember seeing any posts lasts week bashing his tendancy to fumble. Yes, it was a mistake and yes he fumbles more than CP. The D is to blame today guys. Get off of Betts.

[riggoraider]

Originally Posted by redsk1

It's pretty sad that Betts has drawn as much critizism as he has. He is our backup RB and has done a heck of a job this season. One mistake and everyone jumps on him.

I don't remember seeing any posts lasts week bashing his tendancy to fumble. Yes, it was a mistake and yes he fumbles more than CP. The D is to blame today guys. Get off of Betts.

I agree with you some of these guys act if though Betts is a part of a different team.