Defense let us down!

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

the fumble by betts was huge. i'm not sure i can say it lost the game. it's kind of a weird situation, i mean, the defense is so piss poor that the offensive players need to play a perfect game. just like the game two weeks ago against the eagles, if campbell does'nt throw those picks, then the skins win. if betts does'nt fumble, the skins probably win but if the defense was anywhere close to obove average, the skins win both of those games regardless of the turnovers.

That's a point I agree with 100%. However, I would assert that you know that the D is bad, so why wouldn't you play as close to perfect as possible? You know the D can't pick you up. Also, the D got you the football with a chance to win the ballgame and you proceeded to give them the ball right back. That's what gets me about this one. Everyone blames the D, it's hard to get a stop after they feel as though they've snatched victory from the jaws of defeat.

[GiantsSuck703]

Originally Posted by jdlea

That's a point I agree with 100%. However, I would assert that you know that the D is bad, so why wouldn't you play as close to perfect as possible? You know the D can't pick you up. Also, the D got you the football with a chance to win the ballgame and you proceeded to give them the ball right back. That's what gets me about this one. Everyone blames the D, it's hard to get a stop after they feel as though they've snatched victory from the jaws of defeat.

Why are you making excuse after excuse for the D, Ladell made one mistake today, but hes also a back up pressed into starting duty and hes absolutely shined. I really dont understand your argument, you say the offense should play as close to perfect as possible, do you not understand thats what they intend to do every sunday, things change those scenarios. I really cant believe that people are saying its Betts fault we lost, I honestly cant believe it, he gave us a 2 TD lead he wasnt the one who gave it back, and he damn near won the game for us, how much more do you want from a back up, how many teams do you think would line up for Betts services? Sure he fumbled, but who put him into the position he was in, to have to try and win it again?

Heres the production from our back up:
car.-225-yards-1062-TD-4-fumb.-5 fum. lost-2

Ill take that production from my back up all day, your argument has no legs to stand on, you just keep bitching about how he sucks and we should play perfect because we now the D sucks, you cant be serious

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by GiantsSuck703

Why are you making excuse after excuse for the D, Ladell made one mistake today, but hes also a back up pressed into starting duty and hes absolutely shined. I really dont understand your argument, you say the offense should play as close to perfect as possible, do you not understand thats what they intend to do every sunday, things change those scenarios. I really cant believe that people are saying its Betts fault we lost, I honestly cant believe it, he gave us a 2 TD lead he wasnt the one who gave it back, and he damn near won the game for us, how much more do you want from a back up, how many teams do you think would line up for Betts services? Sure he fumbled, but who put him into the position he was in, to have to try and win it again?

Heres the production from our back up:
car.-225-yards-1062-TD-4-fumb.-5 fum. lost-2

Ill take that production from my back up all day, your argument has no legs to stand on, you just keep bitching about how he sucks and we should play perfect because we now the D sucks, you cant be serious

I'm not really trying to make excuses for the D. I'm not denying they screwed up. I'm not denying that they were a large reason why the game was lost. However, the offense got the ball with a chance to win the football game. It looked as though they would and Betts coughed it up. The horrid D did let the Rams score. However, let's say Betts doesn't fumble...who do you think wins? I'm not trying to absolve the D by any means. They're bad. However, Betts certainly didn't help matters and he certainly contributed to the loss in a big way.

All that said, I don't think Ladell Betts is a bad football player. He made a bad play and it cost the team the chance to win the game. You can't argue that. He didn't give the Rams the game, but he give them the Redskins' chance to win the game. He gave away the Skins shot at the win. I'm less disappointed in the D because I know they're bad, that doesn't make it okay, and it doesn't make it excusable, but when he fumbled I knew it was over, OT or not. The D isn't good and they helped lose the game, but they weren't the only ones, Ladell helped too.