If the Giants win they are in!

[Pocket$ $traight]

How bad is the NFC this year? It makes our piss poor season that much more disappointing because all you had to do was show a pulse and you were in. Oh well. Merry Christmas and hopefully we get a top 5 pick.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

How bad is the NFC this year? It makes our piss poor season that much more disappointing because all you had to do was show a pulse and you were in. Oh well. Merry Christmas and hopefully we get a top 5 pick.

If we had Campbell from day 1, I truely feel we'd be in the playoffs right now. Not by much mind you, since our D sucked all year, partly due to flaws, and a lot to do with injuries, but we'd have 7 or 8 wins right now.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by jsarno

If we had Campbell from day 1, I truely feel we'd be in the playoffs right now. Not by much mind you, since our D sucked all year, partly due to flaws, and a lot to do with injuries, but we'd have 7 or 8 wins right now.

I don't know that Campbell would have been the difference maker, but I will say this -- the defense played well enough in losses to Minnesota (lost 19-16), at New York (lost 19-3) and the second Philly game (lost 21-19).

By winning those three, we're 8-7 and right in the thick of the playoff hunt. Even the 25-22 loss to Tennessee was somewhat manageable -- remember the veteran savvy of Mark Brunell throwing a pick into quadruple coverage on Santana Moss?

What hurt us in those games was the offense -- they were catatonic against the Vikings, and played like it was still preseason; woeful and inept in NY; while Campbell's inexperience led to 14 easy points for the Eagles.

There's lots of 'woulda, coulda, shoulda' this year. But when your defense holds the opponent to around 19 or 20 points, and your offense can't pick it up a knotch, you don't deserve to participate in the postseason.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

By winning those three, we're 8-7 and right in the thick of the playoff hunt. Even the 25-22 loss to Tennessee was somewhat manageable -- remember the veteran savvy of Mark Brunell throwing a pick into quadruple coverage on Santana Moss?

I also recall the defense getting shredded by Travis Henry for a buck 80.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I also recall the defense getting shredded by Travis Henry for a buck 80.

Again, being able to score more than 25 against the Titans at home should have been manageable.

Also notice that I didn't include that game as one of the three we could have won, putting us in a possible 8-7 record. It's just an example of a game where the offense should have picked it up a notch.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Again, being able to score more than 25 against the Titans at home should have been manageable.

Also notice that I didn't include that game as one of the three we could have won, putting us in a possible 8-7 record. It's just an example of a game where the offense should have picked it up a notch.

Of course the offense could have picked it up in that game, but you can also draw the conclusion that had the defense not been on the field the entire game, or if they could have forced a turnover or two, the offense would have had more opportunities. The Titans' offense held a huge advantage in time of possession holding the ball for over 35 minutes. Also, the fact they were facing a rookie QB makes it even worse.

It goes both ways, the chicken or the egg argument I guess.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by jsarno

If we had Campbell from day 1, I truely feel we'd be in the playoffs right now. Not by much mind you, since our D sucked all year, partly due to flaws, and a lot to do with injuries, but we'd have 7 or 8 wins right now.

It's possible, because at this point in the year he'd be playing better than he is now, but I don't think we would have put up 30+ vs. Jax in JC's 4th start, consequently taking the loss. We'd likely have at least 1 more win though, probably 2, although we could have left Brunell in and got the same effect, albietit costing JC any expierence.

This is a prime example of how making a QB change to a younger QB can cost a team wins, but it was necessary to get us in position to win next season.