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Old 12-28-2006, 10:11 PM   #1
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i don't need any of those stats to remind me how much we have sucked defensively this season
Huh? What team are you watching?
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Old 12-27-2006, 12:04 PM   #2
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Re: Worst Defense in the NFL

The D has sucked this year but the O has not helped them very much this season. With alot of 3 and outs. I wonder if there is a stat for teams and how they rank with 3 and outs.
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Old 12-27-2006, 12:39 PM   #3
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The D has sucked this year but the O has not helped them very much this season. With alot of 3 and outs. I wonder if there is a stat for teams and how they rank with 3 and outs.
Let's not let them off the hook, the D has stunk plain and simple. The offense hasn't been that bad.
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Old 12-27-2006, 01:03 PM   #4
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The D has sucked this year but the O has not helped them very much this season. With alot of 3 and outs. I wonder if there is a stat for teams and how they rank with 3 and outs.
We're 19th in the league in 3rd down conversion percentage (37%). We're also 19th in the league in 3rd down attempts with 200.

Not exactly stellar, but I would say it's hard to attribute the worst defense in the league to the 19th ranked offense in 3rd down conversions.
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Old 12-27-2006, 01:24 PM   #5
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Cowboys have been the last several games. Id be surprised if they get a playoff win.
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Old 12-27-2006, 01:46 PM   #6
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Cowboys have been the last several games. Id be surprised if they get a playoff win.
It's amazing how everyone jumps on, then off bandwagons. When the cowboys were winning, everyone said how great the team was, they are the most solid team in the NFC. Now they lose one game and get exposed, and they are horrendous.
If this was the Skins, I'd say, "we have some top notch coaches, and they will figure out a way to win". WHy? Because I have faith in my team...maybe you should too.

That being said, I'd be surprised too!
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Old 12-29-2006, 11:51 AM   #7
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It's amazing how everyone jumps on, then off bandwagons. When the cowboys were winning, everyone said how great the team was, they are the most solid team in the NFC. Now they lose one game and get exposed, and they are horrendous.
If this was the Skins, I'd say, "we have some top notch coaches, and they will figure out a way to win". WHy? Because I have faith in my team...maybe you should too.

That being said, I'd be surprised too!
I for one am not (like those sport commentator dummies) never thought the defense was solid. Dallas is not horrendous when you look at the level of play in the NFC by other teams.

I have faith that they will beat the Lions but the postseason looks grime with the defense level of play. If Dallas doesnt get to the big one this year there is even more hope to look to next season as a promising one. I can not say the same for Washington.
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Old 12-27-2006, 12:16 PM   #8
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"Hopefully Williams has a plan in place to right the ship."

Yeah, here's a plan: Stop thinking your scheme is so great that you can put in P.O.S's like Holdman and Archuletta, and actually get some real talent to make up for all the talent you let go in the last two years.
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Old 12-27-2006, 12:25 PM   #9
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Ouch. It's really made me realize how good our d was the last couple years. It's amazing to me how far this d has fallen off w/ basically the same guys here. Hard to believe.

It works both ways in regards to the o and the d. With some help from the D we could have been much better offensively.
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Old 12-27-2006, 12:50 PM   #10
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Anyone know where we rank in # of turnovers by the O? I know we're one of the best in the league had holding on to the ball. While that doesn't mean our offense has been highly effective, it further shows how much our D let us down - they couldn't stop or take the ball away, while for the most part our offense has at least not lost many games for us.
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Anyone know where we rank in # of turnovers by the O? I know we're one of the best in the league had holding on to the ball. While that doesn't mean our offense has been highly effective, it further shows how much our D let us down - they couldn't stop or take the ball away, while for the most part our offense has at least not lost many games for us.
We're 2nd best in the league for giveaways with 15 (1 more than San Diego). Unfortunately we're worst in the league in takeaways.

Means the offense has done an excellent job NOT turning it over, and that's with a young, inexperienced QB and a backup RB. The defense, on the other hand, can't force a turnover to save it's life.
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Old 12-27-2006, 08:58 PM   #12
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We're 2nd best in the league for giveaways with 15 (1 more than San Diego). Unfortunately we're worst in the league in takeaways.

Means the offense has done an excellent job NOT turning it over, and that's with a young, inexperienced QB and a backup RB. The defense, on the other hand, can't force a turnover to save it's life.
That has to also prove that Betts is not the fumbler that people are saying that he is
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Old 12-27-2006, 09:07 PM   #13
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That has to also prove that Betts is not the fumbler that people are saying that he is
He also didn't have very many carries in the first part of the year.

The term "fumbler" means different things to different people. Earnest Byner was not a "fumbler", but he is probably best known for fumbling in the 1987 AFC Championship game against Denver. He might have put the ball on the ground one or two other times for the rest of his career.

Stephen Davis on the other hand, and to a certain extent, Gerald Riggs were fumblers. I'd say if you fumble it two times or more in the same season, you've earned the label. Betts did it against Tampa Bay and against the Rams (that I can think of). That's not as agregious as say, Tiki Barber - who was also known as a notorious fumbler before Coughlin started coaching him - but it does start to raise the eyebrows.

Like it or not, in this league if you fumble it more than once in a season, and have demonstrated a history of it -- your a fumbler. Plain and simple.
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Old 12-27-2006, 09:21 PM   #14
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He also didn't have very many carries in the first part of the year.

The term "fumbler" means different things to different people. Earnest Byner was not a "fumbler", but he is probably best known for fumbling in the 1987 AFC Championship game against Denver. He might have put the ball on the ground one or two other times for the rest of his career.

Stephen Davis on the other hand, and to a certain extent, Gerald Riggs were fumblers. I'd say if you fumble it two times or more in the same season, you've earned the label. Betts did it against Tampa Bay and against the Rams (that I can think of). That's not as agregious as say, Tiki Barber - who was also known as a notorious fumbler before Coughlin started coaching him - but it does start to raise the eyebrows.

Like it or not, in this league if you fumble it more than once in a season, and have demonstrated a history of it -- your a fumbler. Plain and simple.
MORE THAN ONCE IN A SEASON!!! ...You are kind of hard on a running back aren't you? I am sure that all or the majority of the starting running backs have more than one fumble therefore all have to be labled fumblers right?...I may be wrong but if you can give me a starter that has not fumbled more than once this year please do so and I will, gladly, eat my words.

LT and LJ and Steven Jackson has 2 so they are fumblers also right?... Tiki Barber 3..Shaun Alexander ....4...Willie Parker and Frank Gore 5 ...fumblers?

Why don't all these guys be benched they are awful backs!!!
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Old 12-27-2006, 12:57 PM   #15
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It is definitely due to the loss of such players as Pierce, Smoot, Ryan Clark, Arrington (hate to say). Despite being better players at their positions than what we have now, they also had fire, attitude and leadership qualities. We all have bitched and moaned about Lavar's attitude ad naseum, but I remember when he was the spirit of the team. When that fades and ultimately becomes acrimonious, the team will suffer and it has. The Redskins have absolutely NO identity on defense. On offense, we had Santana and Clinton. But with CP's injury, we lost the lynch pin and spirit of the O. There is more to the game than just physical talent. The Redskins have no IDENTITY. That's what needs to change in order to have success next year.
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