What's Considered Success for Next Season?

[12thMan]

I've been pondering that question in light of the fact that we're out of the playoffs and many of us on Warpath have begun to discuss the off season and the 2007 campaign.

But what would be considered a successful 2007 season for a team coming off a losing record? Would 8-8 be considered a success? How about if we went 9-7, yet still missed the playoffs?

I'm torn between what I would like the Redskins to do and what I should realistically expect them to do.

Assuming modest upgrades here and there, and Jason Campbell progressing, how do we actually guauge whether this team turned it around.

Please feel free to weigh in, and Mods please feel free to start a poll.

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[dall-assblows]

i think that since jc got to play this year, next year will not be as rocky as i would of first imagined. thank gob gibbs saw the light about the future.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by dall-assblows

i think that since jc got to play this year, next year will not be as rocky as i would of first imagined. thank gob gibbs saw the light about the future.

But if you had to nail it down in down to an actual record, what would you say?

[firstdown]

I think that we should have a good year next year. Our O looks as if they are starting to click, Betts will see more playing time, the line looks strong, and JC is starting to come around. Our special teams have played very strong and we do not have alot of players to re-sign. If our D can add a few players I think they will be ok and we will get an easy schedual.

[dall-assblows]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

But if you had to nail it down in down to an actual record, what would you say?

well we expected alot this year i would say 10-6 11-5. i expected a lot this year so i expect big things next year. our team has as much, if not more talent than any other team. there is no reason to be as bad as we look

[724Skinsfan]

I would consider a solid team that makes it to the playoffs a success. Not a team that must win the last 5 games for a shot but a team that typically wins 3 out of 4 games. In short, a 11-5 record would be great for me and I would be satisfied at 10-6. This is considering the talent that we already have and the fact that Coach has said he's going to fix "it" before he leaves.

[Paintrain]

Top 5 offense
Top 15 defense
10+ wins

Campbell has shown very positive glimpses his skills and abilities that should greatly improve with a full offseason getting all of the snaps with the 1st string offense. Portis and Betts are a dangerous combo in the backfield, Sellers should have gotten some pro bowl consideration and I think will emerge next year as one of the elite blocking FB in the game. Moss and Cooley are reliable and Randel-El is a playmaker in the passing game. The OL is one of the top in the game so a top 5 offense isn't too far fetched.

The defense needs to remake the secondary, move Springs to FS, Taylor to SS, sign Clements and a strong 3rd CB & draft depth.. Try to find a MLB somewhere, start McIntosh from the OTAs so he gets all the reps.. Get a starting DE/DL with our top 10 pick and keep the DL depth we have. It's hard to beleive we won't get more than 12 turnovers again since the NFL record is 15 (which we will likely break).

On the field we were about 10 plays from being a 9 win team (Minn, Tenn, Philly, Atlanta, St. Louis were winnable games) so a rebound to 10+ wins is a stretch but not completely unfathomable.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Top 5 offense
Top 15 defense
10+ wins

Campbell has shown very positive glimpses his skills and abilities that should greatly improve with a full offseason getting all of the snaps with the 1st string offense. Portis and Betts are a dangerous combo in the backfield, Sellers should have gotten some pro bowl consideration and I think will emerge next year as one of the elite blocking FB in the game. Moss and Cooley are reliable and Randel-El is a playmaker in the passing game. The OL is one of the top in the game so a top 5 offense isn't too far fetched.

The defense needs to remake the secondary, move Springs to FS, Taylor to SS, sign Clements and a strong 3rd CB & draft depth.. Try to find a MLB somewhere, start McIntosh from the OTAs so he gets all the reps.. Get a starting DE/DL with our top 10 pick and keep the DL depth we have. It's hard to beleive we won't get more than 12 turnovers again since the NFL record is 15 (which we will likely break).

On the field we were about 10 plays from being a 9 win team (Minn, Tenn, Philly, Atlanta, St. Louis were winnable games) so a rebound to 10+ wins is a stretch but not completely unfathomable.

Good breakdown. I'm hoping and wishing for 10-6...9-7 shouldn't break our hearts either.

[dall-assblows]

man if our defense could catch, we would hav at least 8 or 9 more picks

[onlydarksets]

If we fix up the defense, then 10+ wins should be the expectation. If not, expect more like 7 wins.

[Bill B]

I'd say 10 wins next year would be a success. Like others have said - the last place schedule will be better - plus we are playing the AFC East next year which I think the Skins can easily go 3-1 (losing to the Pats and beating the rest). Plus is the kicking game goes smoothly that probably adds 2 wins right there.

[jsarno]

I agree with the general thoughts here. 10+ wins.
If we fail to reach the playoffs next year, we failed as a team.

If we see another 5-8 win season, expect HUGE changes. Gibbs retirement, being the biggest. Most coaches being fired. Probably an overhaul on offense and defense. Basically we don't want to see us fail next year for the fact of how far it will set us back in terms of changes.

[MTK]

Anything less than the playoffs is always a disaster.

[Bill B]

Originally Posted by jsarno

I agree with the general thoughts here. 10+ wins.
If we fail to reach the playoffs next year, we failed as a team.

If we see another 5-8 win season, expect HUGE changes. Gibbs retirement, being the biggest. Most coaches being fired. Probably an overhaul on offense and defense. Basically we don't want to see us fail next year for the fact of how far it will set us back in terms of changes.

Jsarno - does the changes you have in mind include a new GM/FO overhaul which would also include the firing of Vinny Cerrato?

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Bill B

Jsarno - does the changes you have in mind include a new GM/FO overhaul which would also include the firing of Vinny Cerrato?

I'm not sure, but I would certainly think those changes could occur. I really feel Snyder is on the edge of his seat. This team has been set up for success in terms of talent and coaching, if they fail again, 07 will be the last season we see with all these players and coaches. I think all the progression we've seen from Snyder will go out the window and his "we must win now" attitude will come back.