Whats going on with our skins?

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I think the Skins should all look at what a team like the Jets did in last year's draft as a good example of how pivotal draft day can be. We throw away draft picks with the same recklessness as Snyder pisses away money on overhyped, underachieving free agents. See the Duckett trade as a perfect example. A 3rd round pick for a guy who got all of what, 20 carries this year? And he won't even be on the roster in a few weeks...

Yes, the Jets do build through the draft, but more than that they have a first year coach that wouldn't let those guys quit and got them to the playoffs. I don't think their roster is any more talented than the Skins.

I'll say the same for Kansas City. Herm went in there and said look, this is the way it's going to be...."you play to win the game". Larry Johnson stood in front of the press about 4 weeks ago and said, "this is bullshit, we 'aint trying." No one in KC thought he was dividing the locker room, they saw a perennial All-Pro get angry and rallied behind his words. Ditto Sean Payton and the Saints. I think there is the difference with our team this year and those guys. They'll run through a wall for their coach. Our guys will run through a wall only if our backs are against it.

[dgack]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Our guys will run through a wall only if our backs are against it.

And think about why players might feel that way? Money does not motivate anybody for very long. In the end, people will fight for leaders they believe in, and for leaders they believe believe in THEM.

Of course it's a business, and everybody knows that, but in the real world people don't respond well to the kinds of shenanigans that the Skins pull with personnel on an annual basis, so I don't know why people think pro athletes would react any differently.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by dgack

And think about why players might feel that way? Money does not motivate anybody for very long. In the end, people will fight for leaders they believe in, and for leaders they believe believe in THEM.

Of course it's a business, and everybody knows that, but in the real world people don't respond well to the kinds of shenanigans that the Skins pull with personnel on an annual basis, so I don't know why people think pro athletes would react any differently.

Right. This team isn't responding to this brand of leadership, I don't care what people say. At first we thought it was about Joe's three rings and so forth, but this generation of players can't connect with that and his past. Then we insert 700 pages of Saunders genius, and he is, and it hasn't yielded much yet. It could next year, but not yet.

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Right. This team isn't responding to this brand of leadership, I don't care what people say. At first we thought it was about Joe's three rings and so forth, but this generation of players can't connect with that and his past. Then we insert 700 pages of Saunders genius, and he is, and it hasn't yielded much yet. It could next year, but not yet.

It seems as if saunder's isnt flexible enough to realize this is not the chiefs but a real tribe... I mean he doesn't seem to be able to adapt and play to the redskin's strengths..... I would like to see him gone...Keep Gibbs cut saunders