Civil Discussion About Religion

[saden1]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

thank you, you are actually proving my point when you say "you don't have to see something to know it exists". that's the exact reason i know god does exist. just like the wind, i've never seen him but also just like the wind, i have seen and felt the effects of him.
we can debate this until we're both blue in the face but the fact is god has changed me, he has made me into a different person, that is a fact you can never argue against. i'm living proof that god does exist.

What were you doing when god was changing you? Sit idle? My take is that you made the necessary changes, god just inspired you.

I am glad for you but the fact of the matter is your "transformation" is not something you can scientifically study to prove the existence of god. In hard sciences anyways but perhaps psychologically and philosophically.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by saden1

What were you doing when god was changing you? Sit idle? My take is that you made the necessary changes, god just inspired you.

I am glad for you but the fact of the matter is your "transformation" is not something you can scientifically study to prove the existence of god. In hard sciences anyways but perhaps psychologically and philosophically.

thank you for being glad for me. hopefully, one day, you'll understand and then i can be glad for you as well.

god bless

[onlydarksets]

Originally Posted by saden1

What were you doing when god was changing you? Sit idle? My take is that you made the necessary changes, god just inspired you.

I am glad for you but the fact of the matter is your "transformation" is not something you can scientifically study to prove the existence of god. In hard sciences anyways but perhaps psychologically and philosophically.

You're looking for an ontological proof of God, right? That is, either a logical set of deductions or scientific evidence, but no requirement of a leap of faith. This is a HUGE field of study, and, AFAIK, there haven't been a whole lot of satisfying answers. Most ontological proofs wind up like the Tootsie Pop commercial ("1...2...3...CRUNCH!"), and I think the vast majority of the religious followers go the "faith" route.