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Old 01-08-2007, 04:13 PM   #1
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When Campbell, Moss, Randle El, and (maybe) Lloyd have time to get on the same page, this offense should be able to do whatever it wants, whenever it wants.
Not to be a hater, but couldn't that be said about most any team? "When <QB>, <Top WR>, <other WRs>, get on the same page (translation: start playing better), they will be unstoppable!"

Our passing game fell off the map after the Dallas win, and although a lot of that was Jason Campbell's inexpierience, a lot of that was protection issues caused in part by a lack of Portis. Brunell's stats likely would have declined had we kept him in there also, although he still likely would have completed more passes per game than Campbell.

I have full faith in Campbell 07.
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Old 01-08-2007, 04:34 PM   #2
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Not to be a hater, but couldn't that be said about most any team? "When <QB>, <Top WR>, <other WRs>, get on the same page (translation: start playing better), they will be unstoppable!"

Our passing game fell off the map after the Dallas win, and although a lot of that was Jason Campbell's inexpierience, a lot of that was protection issues caused in part by a lack of Portis. Brunell's stats likely would have declined had we kept him in there also, although he still likely would have completed more passes per game than Campbell.

I have full faith in Campbell 07.
Well, take your pick with Brunell's high percentage short passing, versus Campbell's riskier down field passing. Either way, the offense was doomed in '06. The naysayers were right about Brunell, the new offense was too much for a one-year transition, and Campbell was going to make the rookie mistakes sooner or later.

And yes, I guess all fans say that about receivers and QBs. But in our case, Campbell does need time to develop chemistry with Moss, ARE, and Lloyd only because he ran with the practice squad guys for most of the year while Brunell ran with the starters.
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Old 01-08-2007, 11:56 AM   #3
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I'm not bashing Saunders. Im totally for him as the offensive coordinator. We need to lose some of 40 coaches let OC and DC do their jobs at the offense and defense. The offense was not explosive it was that we playing teams who could not stop the run. We ran to set up the playaction pass for Campbell to get the ball downfield. To me it a pathetic offense. I do agree with you Gabe1984. We ran a lot to help a first year starter in this complex offense. I just think that we have to take our bumps and bruises and should have let him learn on the fly instead of protecting him. Just as Clinton Portis says every qb is going to throw interceptions. Eventually this offense is going to be very explosive only when Joe Gibbs leaves the playcalling to Al Saunders.
As far as the personnel issue I have I just want Gibbs to leave the offense to Saunders and let him pick the players he would like to run the offense. I guarantee that Saunders did not want Brunell to be the quarterback of this offense. I believe that he wanted Collins to start and for Campbell to learn but it totally did not play out like that. As far as why there was no paragraphs I was just frustrated and did not want to take time and do that. I just wanted to vent my anger as to how things are within the Redskins organization.
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:34 PM   #4
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I'm not bashing Saunders. Im totally for him as the offensive coordinator. We need to lose some of 40 coaches let OC and DC do their jobs at the offense and defense. The offense was not explosive it was that we playing teams who could not stop the run. We ran to set up the playaction pass for Campbell to get the ball downfield. To me it a pathetic offense. I do agree with you Gabe1984. We ran a lot to help a first year starter in this complex offense. I just think that we have to take our bumps and bruises and should have let him learn on the fly instead of protecting him. Just as Clinton Portis says every qb is going to throw interceptions. Eventually this offense is going to be very explosive only when Joe Gibbs leaves the playcalling to Al Saunders.
As far as the personnel issue I have I just want Gibbs to leave the offense to Saunders and let him pick the players he would like to run the offense. I guarantee that Saunders did not want Brunell to be the quarterback of this offense. I believe that he wanted Collins to start and for Campbell to learn but it totally did not play out like that. As far as why there was no paragraphs I was just frustrated and did not want to take time and do that. I just wanted to vent my anger as to how things are within the Redskins organization.
Well it would be one thing if Al Saunders could just dump our current offensive line and just go sign all of his guys from KC. But he can't because of the salary cap. It's just not realistic. You can't just bring in a 5-wide, air it out, run on the edges, throw screen passes offensive philosophy to a team that is built for power running.

Gibbs admitted he underestimated the difference in offensive philosophies between him and Saunders. With hindsight being 20/20, Gibbs has all but admitted that bringing in Saunders was a mistake.
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:55 PM   #5
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I'm not bashing Saunders. Im totally for him as the offensive coordinator. We need to lose some of 40 coaches let OC and DC do their jobs at the offense and defense. The offense was not explosive it was that we playing teams who could not stop the run. We ran to set up the playaction pass for Campbell to get the ball downfield. To me it a pathetic offense. I do agree with you Gabe1984. We ran a lot to help a first year starter in this complex offense. I just think that we have to take our bumps and bruises and should have let him learn on the fly instead of protecting him. Just as Clinton Portis says every qb is going to throw interceptions. Eventually this offense is going to be very explosive only when Joe Gibbs leaves the playcalling to Al Saunders.
As far as the personnel issue I have I just want Gibbs to leave the offense to Saunders and let him pick the players he would like to run the offense. I guarantee that Saunders did not want Brunell to be the quarterback of this offense. I believe that he wanted Collins to start and for Campbell to learn but it totally did not play out like that. As far as why there was no paragraphs I was just frustrated and did not want to take time and do that. I just wanted to vent my anger as to how things are within the Redskins organization.
Too frustrated to take the time to hit to "Enter" a couple of times to make paragraphs, but not too frustrated to type up a rambling rant, eh?

And, um, are we now saying why wasn't Todd Collins our starting QB?
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And, um, are we now saying why wasn't Todd Collins our starting QB?
Finally!

I have been saying this for sooo long! I knew TAFKAS would agree with me that Collins should be our starter. I think Ramsey got screwed too.
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Finally!

I have been saying this for sooo long! I knew TAFKAS would agree with me that Collins should be our starter. I think Ramsey got screwed too.
So did Lavar and Sultan McCollugh..
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So did Lavar and Sultan McCollugh..
Don't forget Justin Skaggs. They'd have named the Pro Bowl after him if he'd only gotten a fair shot.

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Old 01-08-2007, 06:32 PM   #10
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This is a passing league not a run, run and pass league.
Not necessarily the case. The team that usually wins the Super Bowl has a well-balanced offense with a strong running game. So, I can't really agree that it is a passing league at all. Now, arena football, now that is what I consider a passing league. The NFL is not.
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Old 01-08-2007, 09:15 PM   #11
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I hear a voice in the wilderness...

"Be patient Redskins nation, Al Saunders has never made a big impact on any offense in his first season."

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This is a passing league not a run, run and pass league.
I love statements like this, especially when the team with the best record in the league plays Martyball and boasts the league MVP, a running back, Ladainian Tomlinson.
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I love statements like this, especially when the team with the best record in the league plays Martyball and boasts the league MVP, a running back, Ladainian Tomlinson.
SD does not play Martyball at all. Rivers threw for 3,400 yards and 22 TD's. SD is a well balanced offensive team.
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SD does not play Martyball at all. Rivers threw for 3,400 yards and 22 TD's. SD is a well balanced offensive team.
Sort of like how Brunell threw for 3,100 yards and 23 TDs in 2005
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Sort of like how Brunell threw for 3,100 yards and 23 TDs in 2005
Sort of. The difference was Brunell looked old down the stretch. He played poorly the last 4-5 games. Rivers had some bad games too but he's young and a first year starter.
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