Civil Discussion About Religion

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Yet another example of you missing the point.

Why does something have to be "scientifically proven" ie: thought to be true by MAN, for you to beleive it?
There are galaxies farther away from us than we can see or touch, a ton of them beyond our technologies...do they exist? By your standards, they don't. Only what can be seen or touched is true. I would hate to be limited by what a flawed man tells me to be true.

He was talking about the air not being able to be seen, but it still exists. Please understand what people are saying, because to have to explain things twice gets annoying. We're all listening to you, listen to everyone else too. You don't have to agree, just don't jump to conclusions.

ps- there are fish / creatures that live deep in the oceans that we have yet to reach, there is a whole world in our seas that we have not tapped...do they exist? There is literally millions upon millions of things that man has yet to prove, does that mean it doesn't exist? Is cancer curable? Is there an answer to birth defects? What is the meaning of life...ok I threw that one in for giggles.

No you're misunderstanding me. I understood his point, he said just because you can't see the wind doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Likewise, you can't see God, but that doesn't mean he doesn't exist. I got the point. Now here's mine: I only believe that things exist if there is scientific evidence that it exists. I don't have to see the evidence with my eyes, but there has to be evidence. Wind: you don't see it, but you feel it on your skin, and you can measure its velocity. Chemical scanners can analyze it and tell you that it's made up of oxygen, hydrogen, nitrogen, and other gases. Other stars in space: detected by Hubble.

I don't believe God exists because there's no evidence of it. People who believe in him go on faith. In the bolded part above, you're simply asking the fundamental question. Do you or don't you believe God exists? I don't. I need evidence. There is NONE. There is only faith. That's not enough for me. If it is for you, that's fine. But please, don't try to tell me that because I can't see the wind, and because I can't see God, therefore he exists. That's the most retarded logic in the world.