Civil Discussion About Religion

[RobH4413]

My favorite argument for a "god" was the first cause argument. I've always loved it...

You woke up this morning because your alarm clock went off. Your alive because your parents had sex. Your parents are alive because their parents had sex.

Every cause has an effect, and if you trace every cause further and further back through time, to the big bang for instance, what happened before that?

What was the "First Cause" to set everything in motion.

It proves that reason itself is flawed, we live in a foward flowing "time" where every action has a re-action. The problem is that time cannot exist, it's a figment of our silly little brains, and an eternal entity is the logical explanation.

However I just proved that logic is flawed in itself... so now I proved that I can't prove anything, so that leaves me with catch 22 after catch 22. It's funny thinking we can actually know something... but the truth is... we can't "know" anything in the true sense of the word.

It's 2:00am. I'm going to bed.

[SmootSmack]

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[jsarno]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

My favorite argument for a "god" was the first cause argument. I've always loved it...

You woke up this morning because your alarm clock went off. Your alive because your parents had sex. Your parents are alive because their parents had sex.

Every cause has an effect, and if you trace every cause further and further back through time, to the big bang for instance, what happened before that?

What was the "First Cause" to set everything in motion.

It proves that reason itself is flawed, we live in a foward flowing "time" where every action has a re-action. The problem is that time cannot exist, it's a figment of our silly little brains, and an eternal entity is the logical explanation.

However I just proved that logic is flawed in itself... so now I proved that I can't prove anything, so that leaves me with catch 22 after catch 22. It's funny thinking we can actually know something... but the truth is... we can't "know" anything in the true sense of the word.

It's 2:00am. I'm going to bed.

This is a very good post. I often come to that conclusion and amuse myself by my conclusions. I have been round-abouts touching on this, but you summed it up well. Good post.