Sean Taylor struggling???

[GTripp0012]

We can't really afford to move Taylor or Archuleta to outside linebacker because we already have 3 good OLBs (assuming Rocky is good enough to play). Our LB deficiencies are in the middle. Let Arch compete for the 2nd safety job. If he shows that he can improve his cover skills, then you actually might have a player. If not, start Prioleau. Going foward, I think ST will be fine.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

We can't really afford to move Taylor or Archuleta to outside linebacker because we already have 3 good OLBs (assuming Rocky is good enough to play). Our LB deficiencies are in the middle. Let Arch compete for the 2nd safety job. If he shows that he can improve his cover skills, then you actually might have a player. If not, start Prioleau. Going foward, I think ST will be fine.

Who are the three good outside LB's? Washington, yes. Rocky? He barely played. I know you aren't talking about Holdman and I haven't seen enough of Marshall on the outside to say that he is good there.

Pick a position on the defense and you have a hole. You are correct that MLB is a huge liability as well.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

Who are the three good outside LB's? Washington, yes. Rocky? He barely played. I know you aren't talking about Holdman and I haven't seen enough of Marshall on the outside to say that he is good there.

Pick a position on the defense and you have a hole. You are correct that MLB is a huge liability as well.

We saw Marshall at OLB in 2004 when Arrington was injured. He didn't make many big plays but he was solid against the run and in coverage. I believe it would be better if we moved Marshall back to the outside in 2007. He didn't make the right calls that a MLB has to make. That and he sucked in both pass and run coverage this year.

[JDALY27]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

We can't really afford to move Taylor or Archuleta to outside linebacker because we already have 3 good OLBs (assuming Rocky is good enough to play). Our LB deficiencies are in the middle. Let Arch compete for the 2nd safety job. If he shows that he can improve his cover skills, then you actually might have a player. If not, start Prioleau. Going foward, I think ST will be fine.

How about not moving them at all? Start Taylor and AA together to begin the season. Skins had like NO sacks this year. Skins corner play was also pathetic most of the year. I feel AA was made a scapegoat by Greg Williams. Yes, Witten was wide open but that was one play.......Taylor got smoked in coverage all year long. Without a pass rush even Champ Bailey would get burned.........well......maybe not Champ.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by JDALY27

How about not moving them at all? Start Taylor and AA together to begin the season. Skins had like NO sacks this year. Skins corner play was also pathetic most of the year. I feel AA was made a scapegoat by Greg Williams. Yes, Witten was wide open but that was one play.......Taylor got smoked in coverage all year long. Without a pass rush even Champ Bailey would get burned.........well......maybe not Champ.

In no way shape or form should AA be back at SS. Nickel or dime sure or as an LB maybe.

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

In no way shape or form should AA be back at SS. Nickel or dime sure or as an LB maybe.

He can't cover tight ends and running backs as a safety and you want to move him to the 3rd or 4th corner spot? Are you a masichist? J/k

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

He can't cover tight ends and running backs as a safety and you want to move him to the 3rd or 4th corner spot? Are you a masichist? J/k

No. A nickel or dime package is the only way he can get on the field.

[IrishSkins Fan]

Many of the previous posts have identified what I see as the overall problem. Our defense as a whole was bad. Although when I say bad, I mean schematically bad, most of the guys out there I thought fought like warriors. If you will let me elaborate for a moment:

Example 1: D Line
It is the fundamental root of football and starts with the O line beating the D line. This happened all year long. Everybody ran on us, and ran big....

Example 2: Linebackers
When the O line breaks thru to the second level our backers were getting blown out of position. I can't remember how many times I saw this.

Example 3: Secondary
When the run works the secondary is forced to come up for run support. The article I saw in the WP when GW said he thought offenses figured out the cover 2 I almost crapped. That is still a good D as long as you play it correctly. It has is weaknesses like everything.

Summary: In my opinion it all starts up front. It's kind of like a house, if the foundation is bad the house will fall in upon itself.

[IrishSkins Fan]

Many of the previous posts have identified what I see as the overall problem. Our defense as a whole was bad. Although when I say bad, I mean schematically bad, most of the guys out there I thought fought like warriors. If you will let me elaborate for a moment:

Example 1: D Line
It is the fundamental root of football and starts with the O line beating the D line. This happened all year long. Everybody ran on us, and ran big....

Example 2: Linebackers
When the O line breaks thru to the second level our backers were getting blown out of position. I can't remember how many times I saw this.

Example 3: Secondary
When the run works the secondary is forced to come up for run support. The article I saw in the WP when GW said he thought offenses figured out the cover 2 I almost crapped. That is still a good D as long as you play it correctly. It has is weaknesses like everything.

Summary: In my opinion it all starts up front. It's kind of like a house, if the foundation is bad the house will fall in upon itself.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by IrishSkins Fan

Many of the previous posts have identified what I see as the overall problem. Our defense as a whole was bad. Although when I say bad, I mean schematically bad, most of the guys out there I thought fought like warriors. If you will let me elaborate for a moment:

Example 1: D Line
It is the fundamental root of football and starts with the O line beating the D line. This happened all year long. Everybody ran on us, and ran big....

Example 2: Linebackers
When the O line breaks thru to the second level our backers were getting blown out of position. I can't remember how many times I saw this.

Example 3: Secondary
When the run works the secondary is forced to come up for run support. The article I saw in the WP when GW said he thought offenses figured out the cover 2 I almost crapped. That is still a good D as long as you play it correctly. It has is weaknesses like everything.

Summary: In my opinion it all starts up front. It's kind of like a house, if the foundation is bad the house will fall in upon itself.

I too have felt it is more scheme than players. I also think if there was one player, and there isn't, that truly had a mediocre season, it was Cornelius Griffin. He was getting man handled most of the time, and rarely recorded tackles in the backfield.

[JDALY27]

Originally Posted by IrishSkins Fan

Many of the previous posts have identified what I see as the overall problem. Our defense as a whole was bad. Although when I say bad, I mean schematically bad, most of the guys out there I thought fought like warriors. If you will let me elaborate for a moment:

Example 1: D Line
It is the fundamental root of football and starts with the O line beating the D line. This happened all year long. Everybody ran on us, and ran big....

Example 2: Linebackers
When the O line breaks thru to the second level our backers were getting blown out of position. I can't remember how many times I saw this.

Example 3: Secondary
When the run works the secondary is forced to come up for run support. The article I saw in the WP when GW said he thought offenses figured out the cover 2 I almost crapped. That is still a good D as long as you play it correctly. It has is weaknesses like everything.

Summary: In my opinion it all starts up front. It's kind of like a house, if the foundation is bad the house will fall in upon itself.

Agreed 100%. Our entire defense seemed to collapse. AA was not the reason we went from 9th to 31st. This was supposed to be about ST so lets get back to him. He should be our defensive team Captin in 2007. The guy is still one of the best in the business at what he does. But our broken "foundation" never enabled him to roam free and make impact plays. He was always chasing a running back or reciever down the field after our defense gave up a huge play.......

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by JDALY27

Agreed 100%. Our entire defense seemed to collapse. AA was not the reason we went from 9th to 31st. This was supposed to be about ST so lets get back to him. He should be our defensive team Captin in 2007. The guy is still one of the best in the business at what he does. But our broken "foundation" never enabled him to roam free and make impact plays. He was always chasing a running back or reciever down the field after our defense gave up a huge play.......

I do not think ST is a team captin type of guy.

[JDALY27]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I do not think ST is a team captin type of guy.

Why would you say that. He's one of the hardest working Redskins at practice. He can be a leader by example not speaches. Who hits harder than Sean? He's a dynamic play maker that has not been used properly in my opinion. Giving him the C on his chest will only help his career and ultimately help the SKINS!

[sportscurmudgeon]

Gaines Adams from Clemson played DE most of the time but also played inside once in a while. I saw him twice this year and he's pretty damned good. He's definitely a DE in the NFL but with all the weaknesses on the DL this year, the Skins cannot afford to ignore him.


If you recall, Sean Taylor was the guy who couldn't find the time to answer Joe Gibbs phone calls for an entire off season. That was two years ago. That's the behavior of a team captain? I don't think so.


If you also recall, the "problem" with Taylor's coverage this year was ascribed to the fact that he didn't have Ryan Clark next to him out there explaining the coverages to him after the calls amd in from the sidelines. Don't know if that's true, but it might explain why he was so out of position so many times. But if so, is that your defensive captain? If not, then do you reward someone with a captaincy after such a poor season?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Gaines Adams from Clemson played DE most of the time but also played inside once in a while. I saw him twice this year and he's pretty damned good. He's definitely a DE in the NFL but with all the weaknesses on the DL this year, the Skins cannot afford to ignore him.

If we do take Adams, we have 2 great pass rushing ends who suck at defending the run. That makes us the Colts, ferocious with a lead, but we'd just get run on all day.

Of course, the Colts D would be an improvement over this, but I'd much rather have Alan Branch, DT, Michigan.