Calvin Johnson entering NFL draft

[Rexi]

The Raiders are going to pass on CJ and Quinn for Russell and continue being completely horrible.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Rexi

The Raiders are going to pass on CJ and Quinn for Russell and continue being completely horrible.

I agree. If they wouldn't take Leinart why would they take Quinn? Russell seems like a guy they'd die for. I don't get that warm fuzzy feeling from Russell. I think he looks like a bust to me. Actually not really a bust but more of a Campbell type (Ie: solid guy who could turn out good, most likely will be decent, but could be a total disaster). And we got skewered for trading up and taking him. I don't get the love for Russell.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

I agree. If they wouldn't take Leinart why would they take Quinn? Russell seems like a guy they'd die for. I don't get that warm fuzzy feeling from Russell. I think he looks like a bust to me. Actually not really a bust but more of a Campbell type (Ie: solid guy who could turn out good, most likely will be decent, but could be a total disaster). And we got skewered for trading up and taking him. I don't get the love for Russell.

Since Russell can throw 40 yards sitting on his butt (as he will display regularly if the Raiders take him) I would give him three plays:

A. "Chuck it up there, dog" 1. A bomb to Randy Moss on the right side.
B. Tuck it in, run up the middle and slide.
C. "Chuck it up there, dog" 2. A bomb to Randy Moss on the left side.

There is one reason why Culpepper had monster seasons and it wasn't the purple uniforms...

[Bill B]

Wouldn't it be more prudent to trade the pick down anyway so the Skins can address 2 needs:

1.) Acquire more draft picks because the defense has too many holes that one pick cannot address.
2.) By trading down they will not have to pay as much in up front bonus money and this will aid in the salary cap - since we have to re-sign Dockery I would think not having to fork over a huge signing bonus (which a 6th pick will require) will help the Redskins deal with their cap. Yes we can restrucutre contracts but I would think this will help the Redskins deal with future cap situations - specifically dealing and lowering the dead cap hits the team has so we have more flexibility.

By having more lower round picks you have more chances of acquiring a good player or two and it will be a much better bargain compared to a high first round pick. If I remember correctly didn't the Detriot Lions in 2003 take a can't miss reciever at number 2 with Charles Rogers? Whatever happened to that guy - is he even in the NFL anymore? He also got a huge signing bonus too.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Bill B

Wouldn't it be more prudent to trade the pick down anyway so the Skins can address 2 needs:

1.) Acquire more draft picks because the defense has too many holes that one pick cannot address.
2.) By trading down they will not have to pay as much in up front bonus money and this will aid in the salary cap - since we have to re-sign Dockery I would think not having to fork over a huge signing bonus (which a 6th pick will require) will help the Redskins deal with their cap. Yes we can restrucutre contracts but I would think this will help the Redskins deal with future cap situations - specifically dealing and lowering the dead cap hits the team has so we have more flexibility.

By having more lower round picks you have more chances of acquiring a good player or two and it will be a much better bargain compared to a high first round pick. If I remember correctly didn't the Detriot Lions in 2003 take a can't miss reciever at number 2 with Charles Rogers? Whatever happened to that guy - is he even in the NFL anymore? He also got a huge signing bonus too.

Word. If you whiff on one of those top 10 picks, especially a top 5 pick, you really hurt your salary cap situation.

I hardly ever see a team that's about to draft in the top 5 who I don't think should try to trade down. Your odds are much better by taking more selections in the lower portions of the first round, and the second and third rounds.

[Bill B]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Word. If you whiff on one of those top 10 picks, especially a top 5 pick, you really hurt your salary cap situation.

I hardly ever see a team that's about to draft in the top 5 who I don't think should try to trade down. Your odds are much better by taking more selections in the lower portions of the first round, and the second and third rounds.

I guess finding a trade partner is harder than it sounds. I wouldn't want the Skins to trade just to trade and not getting equal value for the pick - but my hope is to acquire multiple lower picks at a fair deal - I belive there is a point system used for this.

What was ironic was the draft that the Redskins used to acquire Patrick Ramsey - they made multiple trades to get more picks and still got the qb that they wanted. Wasn't Synder involved in this decision?

[bigmarley4]

I say we take Adams or Anderson at DL if either are available at 6, otherwise trade down and go CB with first pick, DL/OL with whatever 2nd or 3rd rounder we get in the trade down. If we get a decent FA corner, which I am in favor of, definitely stick with #6 and get a stud DL.

A lot of experts have CJ as #1 prospect in draft, no way he's there at 6, in my opinion. Also, in Kiper's ESPN.com chat the other day he had Skins taking DL at #6, for what it's worth.

[offiss]

I believe Dwayne Jarrett will be better than CJ.

[Beemnseven]

Yeah, I guess you never know. As woeful as the Raider franchise is, just look at the Saints.

I don't really have any predictions of Brady Quinn either way. I hate Notre Dame though. I know that.

Playing teams like the Salvation Army, McHale's Navy and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police doesn't exactly get you warmed up for life in the NFL.

[charlielyons]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Yeah, I guess you never know. As woeful as the Raider franchise is, just look at the Saints.

I don't really have any predictions of Brady Quinn either way. I hate Notre Dame though. I know that.

Playing teams like the Salvation Army, McHale's Navy and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police doesn't exactly get you warmed up for life in the NFL.

no but being under a coach with 3 rings grooms a quarterback well. ask tom brady

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

I don't get the love for Russell.

I don't really get it either. I guess everyone's so high on him because he's SO big and strong -- not many QBs like that in the NFL.