Tom "Iceman" Brady

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Originally Posted by dmek25

saying the patriots won those super bowls because of their defense, is an idiotic statement

It's a simplistic statement, one that I'd never say. It would be discrediting the role of the Patriots offense in their playoff run, which I'm NOT doing.

Think about a team with all the offensive players of the Colts, and all the defensive players of the Patriots. Would that team not beat the actual Colts and the actual Patriots 9/10 times each? Of course they would.

Be careful, Dmek, to not get sucked into the rings vs. stats arguement. It's where we started. The modern day Patriots have 3 rings to the Colts 0 because Scott Pioli built a better team from the ground up than Bill Polian did. That much is obvious.

We aren't trying to decide which team is better (the Patriots), only which QB is better. Rings don't help us decide that.