GTripp's Official Mock Draft Thread

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I would consider a mid-first round pick and an early second round pick. I think that could be very doable (but the Skins won't do it).

This is a good trade as long as the guy you are targeting falls to that first rounder that you are getting. It's risky, but if you are successful and land your guy, having that 2nd rounder is pretty sweet.

A perfectly even trade accoring to the chart would be the Rams 1st and 2nd for our 6th overall.

If we could get something like that, we'd be sitting pretty.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I'd be way down with that. I just feel like even though I like Branch and Andersen, I'd rather be able to knock out two things at once.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I'd be way down with that. I just feel like even though I like Branch and Andersen, I'd rather be able to knock out two things at once.

I like em both. I think this D is going to take a couple years to rebuild, and we honestly don't know enough right now to completely fix this thing. I think we'd be best off taking a sure fire DT prospect (although nothing about Branch is sure-fire, hes the closest thing there) and addressing more needs with more picks next year (2008).

Let's say we take Branch and he ends up earning the starting role right out of camp. It could turn out that Carter ends up being a pass rushing stud for us and all we really need is a 3rd round DE to play on the left side. Or it could turn out that even with a stable interior, Carter just doesn't provide a consistent pass rushing threat. If he needs to be cut or moved back to LB, we can then draft a pure pass rusher to play on the right side in 2008.

The more we know the better our decisions will be.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I'd also be down with that. The main thing I hope is the Skins don't screw UP this draft. No trading next year's picks. None of that crap.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I'd also be down with that. The main thing I hope is the Skins don't screw UP this draft. No trading next year's picks. None of that crap.

I hear that. That's why we are in this predicament.

I was surprised that there wasn't more outrage when we dealt this years second to move up from 53 to 35 to get Rocky. I knew we were impatient, but wtf was that? He was probably going to fall, and there were plenty of other prospects we liked that would have been there at 53 if we werent. Sometimes we just lock into a guy who isn't even necessarily the best guy available.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I hear that. That's why we are in this predicament.

I was surprised that there wasn't more outrage when we dealt this years second to move up from 53 to 35 to get Rocky. I knew we were impatient, but wtf was that? He was probably going to fall, and there were plenty of other prospects we liked that would have been there at 53 if we werent. Sometimes we just lock into a guy who isn't even necessarily the best guy available.

It's early to say whether it was a great or foolish one, but I think a lot of us seriously questioned/attacked that move. I wondered whether we were targeting Demeco Ryans or D'Qwell Jackson and simply lost out.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

It's early to say whether it was a great or foolish one, but I think a lot of us seriously questioned/attacked that move. I wondered whether we were targeting Demeco Ryans or D'Qwell Jackson and simply lost out.

It just seemed desperate to me. Any way its sliced, it was pretty foolish to trade up when we probably would have gotten Rocky at 53. If Rocky ends up being a star in this league, it certainly softens the blow a little. But in principle, it seems like we gave up our second this year out of pure desperation.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

It just seemed desperate to me. Any way its sliced, it was pretty foolish to trade up when we probably would have gotten Rocky at 53. If Rocky ends up being a star in this league, it certainly softens the blow a little. But in principle, it seems like we gave up our second this year out of pure desperation.

The move would have been much more palatable had we finished with a good record. I hate the idea of giving up the 53rd pick (last year) and the 38th pick (this year) for Rocky. At that price he better be as good as a guy like Marcus Washington.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Yeah, I was OK with that because I knew we screwed it all the way around already.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Yeah, I was OK with that because I knew we screwed it all the way around already.

Sad, but true.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Just as much as we need to learn to not waste draft picks and be overactive in FA, we also need to learn to keep our core players, do manageable contracts. THEN we can be like the rest of the league.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Just as much as we need to learn to not waste draft picks and be overactive in FA, we also need to learn to keep our core players, do manageable contracts. THEN we can be like the rest of the league.

We actually have a bunch of key players hitting the market this year. Dock gets all the pub, but what about Ade Jimoh, Todd Wade, Mike Pucillio, even Jeff Posey and Kenny Wright? Pucillio and Wade espicially were great line depth for us. I'd much rather get these five back with cheap multi year deals and let Dock walk then sign Dock to a big deal and let all these role players get away.

It's getting to the point where we really should start thinking about Cooley's deal. Dudes one of the best TE/H-Backs in the league and is making less than 40 players on our team on a contract that expires after this year. Pay him now.

I think we are learning slowly but surely. The fans victimize our front office for letting Pierce and Smoot get away, and with Pierce I think the critizism is justified. All front offices have to make tough decisions with who to let walk and a lot of times, teams lets young talent walk and they become successful other places. It's not going to kill them, it happens.

Where we differ from most teams is how we go about replacing them. We don't ever go bargin basement to replace and thats a problem. That's where the cap problems originate.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Yup, it's like we have to max out the cap every year. How about getting a few role players and just SAVING some cash for next year?

But I know I'm preaching to the choir.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Yup, it's like we have to max out the cap every year. How about getting a few role players and just SAVING some cash for next year?

But I know I'm preaching to the choir.

True, and the cap situation is only going to get worse every year we keep restructuring.

IMO we have a chance to save ourselves this year by not going out and restructuring deals. We can stop the impending salary cap tidal wave.

Assuming we restructure 10 mil in cap room as we do every year, it would force us over the cap in 2008 with only 25 players counting towards it (because that 10 mil that isnt being part of the cap now is being spread over 2008 and 2009 as guarenteed, unrecoverable money). This could get ugly if we dont change the way we go about our business right now. It would get to a point where we would have to cut/restructure all veterans just to field a roster.

It will be interesting to see how we approach this.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

See, I'm all about cutting the weight prior to the deadline and not worrying about dead-cap stuff and just dealing with WHAT WE HAVE.