Tom "Iceman" Brady

[The Huddle]

[quote=GTripp0012;271236]
If your definition is "clutch=winning playoff games", thats fine, but then clutch is obviously team dependant. In that case it would say little about Brady.
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I don't have time to reply to all of this at the moment, but I do want to point this out: either it's all team dependent- stats, wins, interceptions, etc. - or none of it is. With a supporting cast of 10 on every snap, you can't very well pick and choose what's team dependent and what isn't. One of the biggest problems I've had with your postion since the begining is that you seem to swing beak and fourth between (and I'm paraphrasing) "it's all about the team" (explaining points favoring Brady) and "it's all about individual dominance" (explaining the points favorable to Manning) as it suits you.

Or, put another way, Manning's passing yardage says as much or more about the Indianapolis recievers during his career as it does about Manning as a quarterback...