Cheney treated like others, angry about it

[dmek25]

why does everything in politics have to be about bill clinton? he must have been one helluva president

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by dmek25

why does everything in politics have to be about bill clinton? he must have been one helluva president

Becaus most who bash bush supported Clinton and seem to forget that he passed similar laws.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by dmek25

why does everything in politics have to be about bill clinton? he must have been one helluva president

Just like everything for everyone else is George Bush?

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

I think it's fair game to ask a VP about a homosexual daughter when the Bush administration relied, in part, on a gay-bashing platform to get re-elected. That said, Cheney has every right to tell Wolf he's not going to talk about his daughter. So, Cheney got it right, he knew such questions come with the territory and he also knew he could say F-off if he so chose. I don't think that makes him a coward.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I think it's fair game to ask a VP about a homosexual daughter when the Bush administration relied, in part, on a gay-bashing platform to get re-elected. That said, Cheney has every right to tell Wolf he's not going to talk about his daughter. So, Cheney got it right, he knew such questions come with the territory and he also knew he could say F-off if he so chose. I don't think that makes him a coward.

He's not a coward for refusing to answer. I'm surprised more politicians don't refuse to answer questions. He's a coward for not standing up for gays, and supporting an administration that is clearly anti-gay.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

He's not a coward for refusing to answer. I'm surprised more politicians don't refuse to answer questions. He's a coward for not standing up for gays, and supporting an administration that is clearly anti-gay.

Maybe he's conflicted about the issue or opposes gay rights. I would assume that many parents with gay children would have conflicting feelings.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Maybe he's conflicted about the issue or opposes gay rights. I would assume that many parents with gay children would have conflicting feelings.

Yeah, you're right. Coward is maybe too harsh. I just think a man in his position should be more loyal to his principles (if his principles are to support gays).

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

Yeah, you're right. Coward is maybe too harsh. I just think a man in his position should be more loyal to his principles (if his principles are to support gays).

I'd agree with that. But, how many politicians are there that you think you could truly called principled and have the integrity to ensure that their conduct conforms to their beliefs?

[Redskins8588]

Whatever they bring that upon themselves when they become Presidents and Vice Presidents. No matter what its going to happen. Next your going to tell me that athlets are not role models.

Did Wolf cross a line when he asked Cheney about his daughter maybe, but isnt that his job also? And its not like Cheney's daughter is a minor here either, she is a grown woman.

[saden1]

Cheney works for the party. He can't really do anything from his position because everyone has to work to appease THE BASE. His only option is to shut his trap about the subject and he is doing quite well in that regard. To expect much from him in regards to gay rights while he is in office is crazy.

[dmek25]

so we should expect more in 2008 from him? maybe a book?

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

I've got to agree and disagree with some of the things you said GTripp. I think it is unquestionable that the mainstream TV media has a liberal bias (vis-a-vis the American center, not vis-a-vis college students and professors). MSNBC and other networks have a liberal bias because they are choose to cover stories that inherently support Democratic platforms, are more likely to refer to politicians as "conservative" than "liberal," etc. Fox News is not so subtle. Fox News is far more overtly partisan than the other news networks. Fox is so very party-line and one-sided that I cannot even take them seriously.

[MTK]

New is news... but it's definitely not reported in the same way by every media outlet that's for sure.

[cpayne5]

A few years ago I found a paper written by a couple of professors that examined (from an academic point of view) the bias of various news outlets. I think the results will surprise a few here. The first version I read of this paper was written in 2003, but the link here is of an updated (November 2005) version.

The entire paper: http://www.polisci.ucla.edu/faculty/.../MediaBias.pdf
A brief summary: Media Bias Is Real, Finds UCLA Political Scientist... 12/14/2005

[saden1]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

A few years ago I found a paper written by a couple of professors that examined (from an academic point of view) the bias of various news outlets. I think the results will surprise a few here. The first version I read of this paper was written in 2003, but the link here is of an updated (November 2005) version.

The entire paper: http://www.polisci.ucla.edu/faculty/.../MediaBias.pdf
A brief summary: Media Bias Is Real, Finds UCLA Political Scientist... 12/14/2005

We measure media bias by estimating ideological scores for several major media outlets. To compute this, we count the times that a particular media outlet cites various think tanks and policy groups, and then compare this with the times that members of Congress cite the same groups.

Their method is absurd and I say that with a straight face. Is this what pass of as scientific study these days? The fact that these jokers mention anomalies (RAND and ACLU) with their list should tell you somethings.

Also, from their premise how do you account for how active an organization is? The ACLU and Amnesty International are in the business of fighting for the weak and defenseless and they don't hesitate to sue on behalf of the little guy. What about the fact that politicians like to take single topic that has the potential of furthering their own career and run with it?