NFL DRAFT SCOUT 1/30 mock (Alan Branch, DT)

[MTK]

Originally Posted by gabe1984

Does anyone else have this erie feeling that we may totally botch the draft this year? As everyone knows, the Redskins have made some absolutely horrific personnel decisions in the past decade. And, it seems like this year's draft is absolutely pivotal in turning this team around. It makes me really uneasy to think that some of the same guys who traded a 3rd rounder for Duckett, got rid of AP, got rid of Bailey, got rid of Smoot, got rid of #56 signed Archuletta, and signed Lloyed are going to be the ones selecting our draft picks. I'm going to go breath into a brown paper bag now.

Or you could also look at it as the front office that brought us Moss, Washington, Springs, Portis, Cooley, Taylor, Griffin, Golston, Campbell, etc.

The glass isn't always half empty.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Or you could also look at it as the front office that brought us Moss, Washington, Springs, Portis, Cooley, Taylor, Griffin, Golston, Campbell, etc.

The glass isn't always half empty.

no, but if you miss expensively, it cancels out a lot of the good. if you use a lot of draft picks, you can afford a lot more misses, since they don't destroy your cap like archuleta's or lloyd's. It's much better to not make a move or overpay for guaranteed talent then take expensive gambles on questionable guys.

[gabe1984]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Or you could also look at it as the front office that brought us Moss, Washington, Springs, Portis, Cooley, Taylor, Griffin, Golston, Campbell, etc.

The glass isn't always half empty.

I dunno, in my opnion they've made more bad decisions than good decisions in personnel since Gibbs has come back.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by gabe1984

I dunno, in my opnion they've made more bad decisions than good decisions in personnel since Gibbs has come back.

Other than some obvious bombs along the lines of AA and Lloyd, how do you figure the bad outweighs the good?

[gabe1984]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Other than some obvious bombs along the lines of AA and Lloyd, how do you figure the bad outweighs the good?

Matty, I feel like I could go on alllll day about why the bad outweighs the good, we probably just look at the situation differently, but here are some reasons.
1. We traded Champ Bailey, the best cornerback in the league, and a draft pick for Clinton Portis. In my opinion, this was not a good idea because talent like Bailey's is extremely rare, and while Portis is a stud, I can think of a handful of NFL running backs that are close to or of his ability or even better such as LT, LJ, Stephen Jackson, Sean Alexander, Edgerrin James, Frank Gore, Thomas Jones, you could make a case for all those guys. They should have looked at what we already had in Betts, Duckett, and Sellars. Or gone through the draft! What did the colts do when they lost Edge, they got a new RB through the draft!

2. I'm going to kinda lump the rest of these guys together. Over the last 4 years, we've continually gotten rid of solid NFL players such as Fred Smoot, AP, 56, and I know the these last two may be debatable...Walt Harris and Ryan Clark. Not only have we gotten rid of talent, but it shows that rest of the team that they're not really willing to take care of their own, and it destroys team chemistry and comradery.

3. I know this is also debateable, but bringing in Mark Brunell. We had a young, promising quarter back in Ramsey, and we decided to bring in an old man. Yes, he went went to the playoffs with him, but I don't think he was really key in doing so. Other than that, we've had two losing season with him, and Gibbs's allegiance to him has hurt the team because he kept him Brunell in longer than he should have.

4. Carlos Rodgers. We had a chance at Ware and Merriman, and we passed up on both of them. Maybe we needed a cornerback, but guess what, maybe we shouldn't have gotten rid of Smoot and Bailey! If we woulda kept them, maybe we would not have drafted Carlos, and we'd a have a pro bowler in either Ware or Merriman, instead of a guy who drops interceptions, and says there's nothing he can do about it when he gets burned for TDs.

5. I don't think I need to go into detail about the cap situaton, AA, Lloyd, and trading a 3rd rounder for Duckett.

Bottom line, if the personnel decisions are that good, then why does GibbsII have a losing record? To their credit, we did bring in some good players like Taylor, Moss, Cooley, Washington, Springs, possibly Campbell, Griffin....... But, I mean, I can also argue as to why they're not that good. Ok, Moss, Cooley,Taylor, and Washington, IMO, were all good. Springs, is an aging CB, that cannot stay healthy, and may have to move to safety. Why didn't we just keep Bailey or Smoot? Washington was a great move too, I can't argue against that. But a lot of the defensive lineman we singed like Griffin, Salavea, Daniels, they're all getting old, they're production is going to start dropping off because they're in the second half of their career. In addition, we've all seen how getting rid of Clark has hurt Taylor's performance.

It's like the Redskins front office is a bunch of Heroin addicts. They're addicted to spending tons of money on free agents because they think it'll fill the insatiable desire for the team to win. But, many of these acquisitions are merely a quick fix that will end their pain for a short time as it did in 2005, but as proven last year it will then start up again if they continue on with the same habits. It didn't work when we signed old guys like Deion and Bruce Smith the first time, and it's not gonna work now.

This why I think that the bad outweighs the good.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by gabe1984

1. We traded Champ Bailey, the best cornerback in the league, and a draft pick for Clinton Portis. In my opinion, this was not a good idea because talent like Bailey's is extremely rare, and while Portis is a stud, I can think of a handful of NFL running backs that are close to or of his ability or even better such as LT, LJ, Stephen Jackson, Sean Alexander, Edgerrin James, Frank Gore, Thomas Jones, you could make a case for all those guys. They should have looked at what we already had in Betts, Duckett, and Sellars. Or gone through the draft! What did the colts do when they lost Edge, they got a new RB through the draft!

Champ had to go. He just didn't want to be here anymore. And we didn't have Duckett then, Betts was (is) injury-prone, and we had just re-signed Sellers a month before we traded for CP. Plus, you can't go into a season with Sellers as the every down back

2. I'm going to kinda lump the rest of these guys together. Over the last 4 years, we've continually gotten rid of solid NFL players such as Fred Smoot, AP, 56, and I know the these last two may be debatable...Walt Harris and Ryan Clark. Not only have we gotten rid of talent, but it shows that rest of the team that they're not really willing to take care of their own, and it destroys team chemistry and comradery.

I'll give you Pierce but Arrington did nothing all year (injured....again) and Smoot has been average at best; not to mention his off the field indiscretions

3. I know this is also debateable, but bringing in Mark Brunell. We had a young, promising quarter back in Ramsey, and we decided to bring in an old man. Yes, he went went to the playoffs with him, but I don't think he was really key in doing so. Other than that, we've had two losing season with him, and Gibbs's allegiance to him has hurt the team because he kept him Brunell in longer than he should have.

Don't feel like beating this Barbaro any longer...(too soon?)

4. Carlos Rodgers. We had a chance at Ware and Merriman, and we passed up on both of them. Maybe we needed a cornerback, but guess what, maybe we shouldn't have gotten rid of Smoot and Bailey! If we woulda kept them, maybe we would not have drafted Carlos, and we'd a have a pro bowler in either Ware or Merriman, instead of a guy who drops interceptions, and says there's nothing he can do about it when he gets burned for TDs.

I'll give Carlos another year before I pass judgement.

5. I don't think I need to go into detail about the cap situaton, AA, Lloyd, and trading a 3rd rounder for Duckett.

Are we hurting cap wise?